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    • Finn666F
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      so today is day29 into paleo, which also means it´s the 2nd to last day before i´m done with my first "whole30" challenge.

      so far i´ve lost 11lbs. (first two weeks i went to the gym like 3times a week, then i got inked and had to stop working out for the last 2weeks, only a 4min. tabata workout each morning), so i think if i´d have been able to work out during the whole 30 days, i would have lost a lot more (thinking 15-20lbs.)!
      the only "bad thing" i did during those 30days was that i had 2-3nights of drinking alcohol on the weekends…during the week i only had tap water and green tea.
      diet-related i always was at 100% though, so no hard feelings about those 2-3nights tbh. ...

      i´m totally satisfied and happy with the actual situation though 😘
      i´ve discovered my love for cooking (and taking pics of it ^^ ), i have way more power during the whole day. no more problems with going to bed at a certain time and also my sleep/sleeping habbits have improved a lot as well. my skin got better and i´m about to get back in shape again...back to the "old me" i was like 4years ago (still some work to do though!).

      **so i have to say trying this was one of the best moves i´ve made during the last few months/years, considering i´m a guy that likes to eat a lot and a lot of almost everything…everything bad 😛 so personally spoken, cutting back on all the bad stuff = carbs and sugars was definitely the right way to go!
      all in all i´m pretty happy and satisfied at the same time, that i´ve went for all of this and tbh. i´m definitely going to keep on going...not gonna stop after those 30days are over, that´s for sure!

      so thanks to all of those that brought paleo into my life (Jeff and Gav especially!)...thanks y´all!**

      btw. here are some great infos for all those that want to start with the "whole 30" program, about what´s ok to have and about things you shouldn´t eat during your own "whole30":

      http://whole9life.com/2013/06/the-official-can-i-have-guide-to-the-whole30/
      …just found out about it, but i def. won´t cut back on eating my beloved pancakes (not really satisfied with the explanation why eating eggs and a banana shouldn´t be the same as eating eggs + a banana, mixed together cooked in a pan!?). at the same time i won´t hold back with eating 85% chocolate from time to time…don´t think that those two things are going to "ruin" the whole "result" of this program, so i´m still going to enjoy eating those things!

      thanks for your time guys, i´m out, peace!...

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      • Finn666F
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        since we´re posting pics of our naked upper bodies in the tattoo thread, i think it´s ok for me (and you) to show you this one as well…

        pre (214lbs.) and post (202lbs.) photos after my whole30 journey - infos in the post above!

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        • derivative666D
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          Great job!

          "Obstacles are stepping-stones That guide us to our goals"

          "honorable mention to the bearded giant aka derivative666 for being a stand up dude & not changing with the seasons since i've been around these parts" Monday

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          • spitfiredealerS
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            Good work there. Quite tempted to try this. Been following a traditional bodybuilding bulk/cut diet for about 10 years. Since i have little desire to be big or on the other hand 'ripped' anymore i am growing tired of the traditional way of eating. Your pics of all the food have got me thinking.

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            • mclaincauseyM
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              Yeah, delicious AND healthy?  No downside there!

              Great work

              Think it, be it.

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                I'm GF/DF anyway - in an atttempt to suppress my IBS (or whatever is wrong with me) - I do eat GF bread and pasta. Thinking I should try Paleo. Heard mixed things in terms of Paleo and IBS.

                edits; also looked at diets related to FODMAP etc. Honestly open to try something new, but I'm unwilling to eat any carb other than rice  😞

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                • Finn666F
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                  thanks a lot gentlemen…

                  @mclaincausey:

                  Yeah, delicious AND healthy?  No downside there!

                  but this right here is the salient point of it all imo…no downsides, it only gets better and better from day to day!

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                  • J
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                    unless of course you believe the people who say that eating animal products increases your risk of cardiovascular disease, cancer, etc

                    I'm not a vegan, just sayin the real truth is hard to know

                    seriously, congrats Finn and d666 and all you folks putting in work and making yourselves healthier

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                    • Finn666F
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                      @jacoavlu:

                      I'm not a vegan, just sayin the real truth is hard to know

                      seriously, congrats Finn and d666 and all you folks putting in work and making yourselves healthier

                      that is, if there even is one 😉

                      thanks mate!

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                      • mclaincauseyM
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                        Yeah. I think physiologies are too divergent for there to be a single answer to diet.

                        The latest overhyped study against red meat for heart health, impugning L-Carnitine, has already been debunked, as have claims that saturated fat and cholesterol cause heart disease.

                        I maintain that lean animal proteins as part of a balanced diet are good for you.

                        Think it, be it.

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                          if saturated fat and cholesterol don't matter, why would you need to worry that your animal proteins be lean?

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                          • mclaincauseyM
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                            Do you think heart disease is the only malady to be concerned about?

                            Think it, be it.

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                            • J
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                              oh no of course not, but probably the most significant. for me, surely

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                              • mclaincauseyM
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                                Yeah.  My blood is in great shape today, but it wasn't always like that for me.  I grew up in the deep South of the US, and we eat fucking terribly unhealthily down there.  Delicious food that will kill you.  A lifetime of trans-fats, starches, fatty, nitrate-laden meats….  It's no wonder why diabetes, hypertension, morbid obesity, and heart disease reign supreme in that region.  And I have a history of heart disease on both sides of the family.

                                So my blood was in awful shape a few years ago, but since I've started working out and watching what I eat my triglycerides, glucose, HDL, and LDL are really good now.  Watching what I eat has mainly been portion sizes and a sort of modified paleo.  I think the biggest difference-maker for me has been the removal of grains, particularly wheat, and refined sugars from my diet.  I believe eating fish and skinless poultry and other lean proteins such as pastured steak has worked for me, but I definitely respect vegan and vegetarian diets as healthful alternatives, as long as they don't lean too heavily on grains and carbohydrates.

                                There's a cardiologist named Dr William Davis who has two blogs and some associated books that has some interesting things to say about wheat and heart disease.
                                http://www.trackyourplaque.com is about atherosclerosis and not just halting its advance, but reversing it.
                                http://www.wheatbellyblog.com is about the perils of wheat

                                Another interesting article that sums up some recent research on the perils of sugar and its putative link to a host of maladies, including cancer, was published by the Times a while back.
                                http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/magazine/mag-17Sugar-t.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

                                I'm not a doctor or a nutritionist, but nixing sugar and wheat has been a part of lifestyle changes (it's hard to know how much credit lives there and how much with exercise) that have had dramatic results for my blood and blood pressure.

                                Think it, be it.

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                                • J
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                                  obesity, etc is pretty much everywhere, red state blue state matters little. wheat, sugar, agree, with little exception anything that is highly processed and/or has more than 5 ingredients is probably not good for you

                                  which is why paleo has a lot of great features, but I think the debate about animal products and health is still unsettled, and bottom line is there is never a free lunch in nature; everything choice is likely to have some downside

                                  for me lately it's been
                                  1. way more raw green vegetables (thanks vitamix)
                                  2. more whole foods, less processed foods (pretty much anything that comes in a box)
                                  3. less animal products

                                  trying to get off blood pressure meds, I think I'll get there. ran my first half marathon last weekend

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                                  • mclaincauseyM
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                                    Vitamix is great eh?  I am careful about green smoothies due to oxalic acid and stones, but I use Spirulina and some greens in everything.

                                    I do think there's an argument for at least some animals in a heart healthy diet, that being fish, the more omega 3 fats the better (unless one is a vegetarian for ideological/ethical reasons). I supplement Dr Sinatra's capsules, which have a sustainable, squid-derived non-fishy tasting "fish" oil with a good EPA/DHA profile and CoQ10. It is targeted at statin-taking heart patients, the idea being to hopefully obviate the need for statins.  I forgot to mention this component of the strategy that I've been using to get my blood in better shape. It's a late addition, but I have been supplementing fish oil for a long time in one form or another and suspect it has a significant role to play among all the other factors I added. I also read good things about cod liver oil.

                                    Think it, be it.

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                                    • mclaincauseyM
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                                      Oh and congrats on the half marathon!

                                      Think it, be it.

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                                      • derivative666D
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                                        Paleo/excercise has helped me lose 65lbs so far. This life change has been nothing short of spectacular for me. Getting so heavy was very difficult for me. It was demoralizing and debilitating. I played div 2 college basketball, was semi-pro snowboarder and was always in outstanding shape. I let myself go and was out of control. My life change has got me back in control and given me a second chance. I need to be a positive roll model for Jake.

                                        "Obstacles are stepping-stones That guide us to our goals"

                                        "honorable mention to the bearded giant aka derivative666 for being a stand up dude & not changing with the seasons since i've been around these parts" Monday

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                                        • seanoconoS
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                                          Congratulations, d666. It's amazing what you've done for yourself and your family. You've demonstrated the power of hard work, perseverance, and discipline. I think you're a role model to people outside of your family, as well.

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                                          • GilesG
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                                            Amazing D666…

                                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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