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      MikeC
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      Breath Jestre-San…..

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      • SeulS
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        @MikeC:

        Breath fire, Jestre-San…..

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        • GraemeG
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          I hate Barclays.

          I transferred £150 across from the Netherlands to the UK to pay some outstanding rent, and got charged £6 for the pleasure. If it had been paid in Euros I'd have avoided the charge because of the SEPA rules. 😞

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          • natehateN
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            sick of the constant influx of new micro denim companies poping up all doing the exact same thing
            i think the lower end market is officially over filled with "options" now

            don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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            • crankyfartC
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              just got my package from G and those bandanas are fantastic! took the green one out to use and less than a day, my mate's dog went to chew it when i left it on the table with my wallets. thank God there's no holes or tear.  😉

              now i just need to have em' washed.  :-\

              make peace, not war. <3

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              • injunjackI
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                Feckin' dog… ate my Chippewa boots, or the tongue of one...Dunno which fecker of the three of them it was...

                Watch this space for freshly made dog-fur mittens...

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                • GilesG
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                  I do not want to open a shit storm here.  But I had a discussion about this when I was in NYC.  "Made in USA" can be great but equally it can mean "made by underpaid Mexicans (substitute a few other nationalities here if you so wish)  in USA".  I promise you, if I send denim to a sweat shop in LA, I can get jeans made for USD12 per pair.  That is simply not right - I know how much time and how many processes gord into making even a shit pair of jeans…

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • Megatron1505M
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                    See "American Apparel" as an example  😠

                    In all honesty, the whole "made in….." thing is a purchasing placebo. What you should be looking for is quality materials and quality construction, regardless of what nationality put the item together. Some of the denim brands from China at the moment look very good (Red Cloud and Co etc..), equally I have had a pair Japanese made Fullcount jeans that were simply awful.

                    In this kind of niche wear, we pay for quality plain and simple, and after a while you get to know and appreciate that quality, and something of a lower standard simply does not cut it.

                    Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                    • Finn666F
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                      @volcano:

                      just got my package from G and those bandanas are fantastic! took the green one out to use and less than a day, my mate's dog went to chew it when i left it on the table with my wallets. thank God there's no holes or tear.  😉

                      now i just need to have em' washed.  :-\

                      where's the rant mate?…looks like everything is good 😉

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                      • SeulS
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                        @ Giles:

                        On the other hand: who says this kinda stuff doesn't happen in Japan?..

                        But yeah: with you on that… "Made in the US" is much less credible a tag than "MiJ"...

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                        • GilesG
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                          I think Mega positions this perfectly….

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          • SeulS
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                            Quite… Oldblue & Co is another fine example!..

                            But I always worry about the employees though (unions, pay, conditions,...).

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                            • DougNgD
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                              Everything comes down to quality control. I've seen a lot of product that has come out of China that is absolute garbage. I've seen product that have been made on the same machines in China that is awesome. If you don't have a manufacturing line with high tolerances and a work ethic that says "this doesn't meet my standard, toss it", you're going to have junk

                              I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                                FYI - Japan had gone through the painful process modernization/manufacturing decades (and I mean decades) ago.  When it first started, many of the goods were of dubious quality.  Over the years, it became very good in making things.  China is going through the process and catching up (albeit very slowly).  If and when quality is there, it is a nation to be reckoned with.

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                                • scroogenS
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                                  Would like to add that to be made in USA only 70% has to be made here. Also don't forget the US has territories that are technically part of the country but have more relaxed laws regarding labor.  As with any kind of product the best shit comes from small outfits, not huge companies with more interest in stocks and shareholders than making a quality product.  Doesn't matter which country it comes from. To me, people are people. And quality is quality.

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                                  • GilesG
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                                    And I give you Visvim as a great example.  Despite the urban myth that they are made by Japanese artisans in China, they are not, they are made by Chinese artisans in China.  Like them or hate them, you can't knock the impeccable quality of construction….

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    • crankyfartC
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                                      @injunjack:

                                      Feckin' dog… ate my Chippewa boots, or the tongue of one...Dunno which fecker of the three of them it was...

                                      Watch this space for freshly made dog-fur mittens...

                                      you're lucky. the dog that chewed on my bandana is one feckin' fierce dog. my mate got bitten by him before. 2 deep punctures and a handful of blood. thats why i had to use food and stuffs to lure that bastard away before i could get back my bandana. 😃

                                      make peace, not war. <3

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                                      • crankyfartC
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                                        @Finn666:

                                        @volcano:

                                        just got my package from G and those bandanas are fantastic! took the green one out to use and less than a day, my mate's dog went to chew it when i left it on the table with my wallets. thank God there's no holes or tear.  😉

                                        now i just need to have em' washed.  :-\

                                        where's the rant mate?…looks like everything is good 😉

                                        haha though no damage was done, i still hate the fact that the bandana was inside the fecking dog's mouth for a period of time. it was all drench with that mutt's saliva when i got back my bandana.  😞

                                        make peace, not war. <3

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                                        • madmondayM
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                                          place looks like one of the turtles from super mario brothers when you jump on it's back, eminent domain at it's finest.

                                          good bye brooklyn

                                          head high, middle finger higher

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                                          • SeulS
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                                            Last week two collegues were sick… Had to work on Saturday last week, and worked last Sunday. It's my day off and I get yet another call... Collegue who was sick last week, now quits altogether... Guess who's working in a bit?..

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