Artist Denim
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I don't know if anyone else saw this, but it looks like on selvedgeforum (where Gun posts regularly), he has a roll of what looks like the 21oz IH denim and another roll of what is almost definitely the 21oz sbg denim
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Not sure, but it looks like he got his hands on IH denim. How many other sanforized rht 21oz black warp black weft denims with red selvedge that fade to grey made of zimbabwe cotton do you know of? Also it's labelled IH-2107, which looks like a code for Iron Heart, 21oz, 7th type of denim or something like that. Finally, he already has the SC 40400, 40401, and 40500 denims, so clearly he has the ability to source some pretty cool denims
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My guess is that the denim biz works just like the rest of the clothing biz. The fabric biz is different from the design biz which is different from the manufacturing biz. I can go right to the factory and buy the same cloth Canali uses for a suit. Whether i can design it and construct it is another matter, involving not just skill and taste but economies of scale and so on.
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What I find particularly interesting is to look at this in context of the Levi's law suit.
A lot of the Japanese brands had to re-consider their "international" approach as a consequence. Some decided to not re-consider and focus on the domestic market only.
I think IH put the right changes in place.Lately, some of the Japanese brands find themselves in that same position where they are getting copied or at least part of their "intellectual property" - registered or not.
Let's see how this one here turns out.
Being part of the garment and sourcing industry I have to say that fabrics and cuts are getting coppied every single day. Only the big brands have the resources (time & money) to protect their interests and go after copies in a legal form.
As long as things are not marketed under a "stolen" brand name it will be difficult to take legal actions. Legal protection for patterns and fabric (patents) are not common - they are expensive and often useless if you can't afford the follow-up cost.
Most of these case are settled in quietly.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
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I don't think they're advertising it as IH. Gun just seems to have gotten himself a roll of the regular IH denim and the sbg denim. It looks like its for some contest
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They are not advertising it as IH, though I am fairly certain it is. I have dropped Gun a couple of emails which he has not replied to and I am pretty pissed off that he is ignoring me. I am sure that he bought the stuff in all innocence, but Haraki and I are desperate to find the source…..
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Here is a statement I just received from Haraki…..
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I found out where the denim were from.
About 6 rolls of denim Mr Gun has were from the mill that is making IH denim.
Those are inferior fabrics which we call "rank C" quality.
We classify our fabrics into rank A, rank B ( a good part can be used
for products ) and rank C ( so bad that none can not use for products )This time, our C fabrics happened to mixed with another oz denims.
The company buying inferior fabrics in Japan bought those fabrics and
somebody bought in Thai.I just discussed about this with Mr. Ono TSS.
He promised our IH denim (includes 21oz) never sold to anybody from now on.Could you please state this to our customer at forum?
These are IH denim. but these are "rank C" denim which never used for
our products.
From now on, our denim will never be sold to anybody even if it's poor
quality fabric like "rank C"We are very sorry for the problem. I will take care severely and be
careful not to happen again.H_