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    • SeulS
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      31 in 634S- sized down 1 that is.. I'd go for the same size as your 634S'es than for the 009 if I were you…

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        @Seul:

        31 in 634S- sized down 1 that is.. I'd go for the same size as your 634S'es than for the 009 if I were you…

        thanks for the advice, ill do that if i can get a pair of 009s in my size

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          Looking at getting my first pair of raw-denim and interested in some PBJ's.

          In another thread everyone pointed me to the IH634s since I was going for a straight legged modern fit.
          I like the slubbyness and look of the PBJ's from what I've seen, so I was curious about the comparible fit to the IH634, and if there are any gotchas with the PBJ's?

          Thanks guys!

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          • SeulS
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            I would suggest the PBJ XX-009. They stretch though, and quite a lot, but you end up with a nice straight leg. They are supposedly tapered but I have yet to notice that - although I did have them hemmed to a 33" inseam which could the reason for that… Other PBJ models have either very low rises, or are slim/ skinny fits...

            I bought the one-wash model here:

            http://blueingreensoho.com/site/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=111&category_id=&manufacturer_id=9&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=28

            I went true to size by the way. Could've easily gone one size down. Random fit pics:



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            • kit99barK
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              heed Seul's warning on the stretching and size down 1!

              RAWWAR 2012!

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                Seul:  They seem to have a very flat, generic blue color, whereas the IH's had some texture/character to the denim. Is that just the picture?

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                • SeulS
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                  They're new, hence the flat colour… Trust me: they will fade like crazy...

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                  • GimpKidG
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                    @buttersb:

                    Seul:  They seem to have a very flat, generic blue color, whereas the IH's had some texture/character to the denim. Is that just the picture?

                    The XX-009 have a indigo warp and weft thread, so there's no contrast like regular denim. I believe the XX-003 is the same fit but with "normal" denim.

                    http://blueingreensoho.com/site/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=23&category_id=&manufacturer_id=9&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=28

                    But Seul's right, the 009 will fade, just differently.

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                    • SeulS
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                      I was assuming you had done your homework, buttersb  😉 … But yeah if that's what you mean, check GimpKid's post... They look like overdyed jeans only they're not and fade much nicer… Again: these have barely been worn, let alone worn hard... I've been sleeping in them, that's about it... I only wear 14 ounce jeans when it's warm(er)...



                      Very uneven structure. Hard to tell, probably.

                      634S versus PBJ XX-009:


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                      • Indigo QueenI
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                        Those fades are amazing!!!!!

                        On my list of must haves- ever growing

                        My jeans seem to go into holes on the left knee well before I can achieve fades like that (since age 11!)

                        Is it because the denim is too lightweight?

                        IQ 😘

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                        • SeulS
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                          What fades?.. I haven't even really started wearing them…  :-\

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                            DrPat
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                            My girlfriend's 1069PP.  The weft threads are dyed purple.  Worn something like every third day for a year.  3 washes.

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                            • georgeelG
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                              … and these are my XX007

                              IH-888S-142OD

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                              • Indigo QueenI
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                                @Seul:

                                I was assuming you had done your homework, buttersb  😉 … But yeah if that's what you mean, check GimpKid's post... They look like overdyed jeans only they're not and fade much nicer… Again: these have barely been worn, let alone worn hard... I've been sleeping in them, that's about it... I only wear 14 ounce jeans when it's warm(er)...



                                I think I'm going back to sleeping in jeans as well - for some reason I sleep better than in pjs!
                                Later will soak in a bath and "get dressed!" again and see if I can sleep tonight as I'm shattered from being up all last night.
                                Anyway, if they wear out it just gives me an excuse to look for more… Although 2011 search not quite over.

                                Been reading some other brands/fits... It's really helpful as I've ordered so many this year that don't fit.
                                From now on I'll check ALL measurements before ordering.
                                Also comments about how the denim "behaves" is really helpful as well.
                                Thnx guys for all of your threads that I've read- its really helpful.
                                IQ

                                Very uneven structure. Hard to tell, probably.

                                634S versus PBJ XX-009:


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                                • lightzL
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                                  pbj 011

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                                  • passthestripeP
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                                    The back pockets on my xx-011's needs repaired.  i'm always stuffing my newspaper in there and it's been too much for the side stitching, need to get them to a tailor for a patch up job as the leaf is holding one on.

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                                    • RocknRollR
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                                      @Seul:

                                      634S versus PBJ XX-009:


                                      Those 634S Vs XX009 pics are amazing. A beautiful comparison of two very awesome, yet completely different, denims.

                                      I'm in the early stages of a pair of 007, and can understand why people say that PBJ denim is some of the wildest out there. Loving it - just hoping I don't get the excessive stretch issue that was mentioned earlier.

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                                      • SeulS
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                                        Oh, and also:

                                        http://www.okayamadenim.com/products/pure-blue-japan-polo-shirt

                                        Yep - that'll be me next purchase…  🙂

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                                        • gbougardG
                                          gbougard
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                                          @RocknRoll:

                                          @Seul:

                                          634S versus PBJ XX-009:


                                          Those 634S Vs XX009 pics are amazing. A beautiful comparison of two very awesome, yet completely different, denims.

                                          I'm in the early stages of a pair of 007, and can understand why people say that PBJ denim is some of the wildest out there. Loving it - just hoping I don't get the excessive stretch issue that was mentioned earlier.

                                          these pics explain why I love both IH and PBJ. If IH didnt exist I would wear nothing but PBJ's (and maybe some samurais, and maybe some momotaros, and maybe some roy's). Since IH does exist, I hardly ever wear by PBJ's but when I do, I go: wow, these are great…

                                          Sly Dunbar bigs up IH on YT
                                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t2OM738mKY
                                          Sly & Robbie A Run Tings
                                          Gregory Isaacs Liveth 4 I-ver

                                          Renault: What in heaven’s name brought you to Casablanca?
                                          Rick: My health. I came to Casablanca for the waters.
                                          Renault: The waters? What waters? We’re in the desert.
                                          Ric

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                                          • RocknRollR
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                                            I know exactly what you mean, gbougard. I don't wear my PBJ often enough either, but I still love 'em to death. Their denim is completely unique.

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