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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Live Reveal - Thursday 12th of June at 1700BST

    There's no Such Thing as a Stupid Question

    Some Really Boring (but useful) and Some Really Interesting Stuff!
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    • RoxRocks86R
      RoxRocks86
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      I’m in the same camp as @Cutlasshound - wear & wash as needed. 21oz softens up quite a bit and gets more breathable as it gets worn and torn imo. When I started getting into denim I definitely couldn’t understand how anyone could wear such heavy, thick material, but you adapt to it.

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      • popvultureP
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        I deffffffinitely agree with that. IH stuff blew me away with the weight at first, but now I feel like I'm wearing no pants if I go below 18oz 😆. And although I don't do it exclusively by any means, I've worn XHS in the summer plenty of times and been just fine.

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        • Denman JohnD
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          I’m sure this question has been asked many times, so one more time if you don’t mind… Why does it seem like a lot of people don’t like to wash their denim? Is it for the high contrast fades? structural reasons? Etc.??? I see people posting things like ‘320 wears, 1 wash and 2 soaks’ Please enlighten me.

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          • GilesG
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            It's a facile construct promulgated by Nudies and Levi's. Call me old-fashioned but my mum taught me to wash shit when it got dirty or smelt, I still do that. Having said that, I do try and delay the first wash for as long as possible to set combs etc. Not washing will give you high contrast fades but will also mess with the structural integrity of the constructional stitching and the denim itself.

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            • T4920T
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              @Denman-John I used to be this way inclined (less so nowadays) but I got into denim around 2008 when the guy at my local store told me not to wash my jeans for 6 months when I purchased a pair of Edwins. He drew my attention to his faded jeans and explained the whole idea of fading and creating a unique piece of 'wearable art' and I thought it was cool as hell.

              Went and joined some denim forums and follow related accounts in the early days of Instagram and everyone seemed to subscribe to this 'wash as little as possible' mantra, so I followed suit and spent ten years of my life in stinky, dirty, but incredibly faded jeans 😆

              It wasn't until joining this forum that I realised that people still had amazing looking jeans when they washed them more regularly, so I relaxed my dogmatic views on washing and started to appreciate the fabrics themselves rather than how drastically they were faded.

              “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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              • Denman JohnD
                Denman John
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                @Giles & @T4920 Thanks so much for your insight and wisdom ~ much appreciated!

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                • Denman JohnD
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                  Next question … indigo transfer. I’ve had some indigo transfer from my jeans to boots and white shirts. Is there a way to stop this indigo transfer from happening, or do we wear it like a badge of honour? For reference, the jeans haven’t been washed yet … will it stop once they are washed?

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                  • T4920T
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                    @Denman-John in my experience, usually takes 2/3 washes for it to stop completely.

                    Can also depends on the way the jeans have been dyed and wether they have been pre-washed.

                    “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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                    • GilesG
                      Giles
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                      No way to stop it from happening with unwashed or lightly washed denim. As @T4920 says, it will lessen with time and the number of washes. Rope-dyed denim fades because the oxidised indigo is abraded from the fabric, that stuff has to go somewhere 🙂

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • Crispy HeronC
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                        A genuine question and not a whinge.

                        Why is there a different in price between a IH work shirt, western shirt and CPO. I note that the new SS24 collection has the IHSH-380 12 oz dobby cloth coming in at around £278 whereas the CPO is around £80 more.

                        What dictates the difference in price? Amount of material used, time taken to make them and the craftsmanship involved, etc? Or all of the above?

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                        • GilesG
                          Giles
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                          @Crispy-Heron said in There's no Such Thing as a Stupid Question:

                          Or all of the above?

                          Yes. CPOs are more complicated and use more fabric to make than Westerns which are more complicated and use more fabric to make than work shirts.

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          • Crispy HeronC
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                            @Giles - thanks. Makes sense. And now I know

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                            • MattM
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                              …which are more complicated and use more fabric than tube tops so I’m not sure why we don’t see more of those.

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                              • popvultureP
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                                • MattM
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                                  I’m getting my summer tummy ready as we speak.

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                                  • popvultureP
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                                    hot dad summer

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                                    • goosehdG
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                                      Only if you can rock the “thug latte” tattoo on your stomach!

                                      Tupac for life. 🙂

                                      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                      • MattM
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                                        Smug Life

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                                        • goosehdG
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                                          West coast!!!

                                          "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                          • goosehdG
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                                            …because there ain’t no party, like a west coast party, cause a west coast party don’t stop.

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