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    goosehd
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    @Karol
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    @Karol That was duck.

    "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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      Karol
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      @goosehd
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      @goosehd I need to read up on this topic, I remember that after the shuttle loom broke the rest was made on a more modern type of loom. What a story!

      Found it - https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum//post/341837

      Favorite:
      IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
      IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
      IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
      IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

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        pechelman
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        Joined: 24 Jan 2022

        The easy way to measure this is to measure the thickness of the fabric. The weight measurement is already an aerial/surface density being a ounces per square yard. Then just convert that aerial to an actual density using the third value. I can take some measurements and put together a list later after work today. Now I'm curious.

        But really, just by feel, the mad black does feel pretty dense. Though I'm pretty consistently amazed with how thin UHR feels given it should be 23oz. Putting on XHS after wearing UHR for a month feels like putting on 21 after wearing 14 almost.

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          popvulture
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          @pechelman yeah man I’d agree about UHR. For some reason it seems to get a reputation for being a punishing denim, but in my experience it’s definitely on the comfier side of other heavy denims I’ve had, various iterations of XHS included. UHR’s a huge fave of mine, both in terms of feel and fading.

          WTB
          IHSH-IHG-BLK XXL
          Sugar Cane Coke Stripe SS L charcoal

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            hbg1
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            @Karol
            Joined: 15 Nov 2022

            @Karol thanks for posting that link, those photos are crazy. Going to read more of that thread at lunch today.
            Love learning more about the denim and brand with posts like this, thanks for sharing all of the knowledge everyone

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              goosehd
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              "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                Karol
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                @pechelman I would appreciate it so much!! Your proposed measurement method might be just what we need.
                I was recently thinking about this topic, as I initially came to IH for heavy fabrics that are super wearable (and boy oh boy IH does deliver) but after I got IHSH-362-BLK - 16oz Non-Selvedge Denim CPO Shirt - Superblack (Fades to Grey) I realized I like ''cardboard - like'' denim as well 😃
                I want to understand what makes it this way and what other fabrics like that I should have on the radar.
                @goosehd pointing to loombreakers suggests it has to be connected with the weaving tension. I guess the 16oz (IHSH-362-BLK) was non-selvedge to facilitate that increased tension.

                Favorite:
                IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
                IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
                IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
                IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

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                  pechelman
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                  really the "best" way to do this is someone who has access to the raw fabrics who can cut swatches of it, say a square yard. Then physically just weight the thing on a scale and measure the thickness. Though I'm not about to cutup my jeans for this 😃

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                    goosehd
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                    In the big scheme of things, the answer really doesn't matter anyway (other than for personal interest). Buy and wear what you like as there will always be a new denim to try and ones we missed out on. Enjoy and cherish what you have...

                    "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                      Karol
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                      @goosehd Its all personal preference at the end, right. For me this is a matter of understanding what makes the things that I like that way. Personally this extends to all aspects of life. To conscientiously walk through life is to understand ... in order to be.

                      Favorite:
                      IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
                      IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
                      IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
                      IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

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                        Mizmazzle
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                        I’m curious about “Life is Miracle” by Iron Heart.

                        I’ve seen this on a few of the 7.5oz tees now…is this simply a design idea slogan…or is it something else? An Iron Heart spin off of some sort, maybe?

                        In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                          Karol
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                          @Mizmazzle The IH guys will know the best, but I remember this being connected with tsunami or earthquake affecting Japan. I guess the the money was going to the victims. I don't remember where I saw the details but I will take a look.

                          Favorite:
                          IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
                          IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
                          IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
                          IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

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                            Karol
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                            @Mizmazzle Actually its in the description - https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum//post/828653

                            11th March 2011 is a date etched into Japanese memories, with the country experiencing the strongest earthquake in its recorded history. The tsunami that followed devastated the northeastern coastline, claiming over 20,000 lives and leaving nearly half a million homeless. In addition to this tragic loss of life, the destruction led to the meltdown of the Fukushima nuclear power plant, forcing thousands more people to evacuate their homes and businesses. Crippling the infrastructure of the entire country, the region of Tōhoku is still recovering from the event even today, more than a decade on.

                            One story that followed in the aftermath of the tsunami was that of a heavily damaged Harley-Davidson motorcycle, washed up in a shipping container on the shoreline of Canada. Thanks to the Japanese markings and intact VIN number, Harley tracked down the bike’s original owner, Ikuo Yokoyama. Ikuo was amongst the thousands of Japanese survivors, and whilst he too had lost his home and possessions, he humbly declined the offer of a brand new replacement. Instead, he respectfully requested that the bike be placed in the Harley-Davidson museum, as a memorial to the victims of the tsunami.

                            Ikuo Yokoyama is now the founder of Life Is A Miracle, a charity set up to support the ongoing efforts to rebuild in the region. A cause close to the heart of Iron Heart owner, Haraki-san, we’re proud to be raising awareness throughout the world with this ongoing series of custom designs and prints.

                            Favorite:
                            IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
                            IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
                            IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
                            IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

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                            • EdHE
                              EdH
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                              @Karol
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                              @Karol said in Random questions to which you seek an answer:

                              what is the most dense IH denim?

                              What kind of density are you interested in, because it's not clear from the comments that follow?

                              You could be looking at how tightly the yarns are twisted, how heavy those yarns were in the first place, how many knots there are in a square metre/yard, etc.

                              You've got me thinking you should start a channel similar to Rose Anvil, where instead of cutting up boots and shoes, you're taking puncture devices to jeans and other garments. These jeans take 3lb of force to puncture (or whatever), they stand up to this much abrasion from 300 grit sandpaper, etc, etc.

                              Take the dive...

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                                Karol
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                                @EdH I can narrow it down to common nomenclature. In the meantime I found in IH Denim Glossary a definition.

                                ''Density

                                Density refers to the difference between a looser or tighter weave of denim fabric and the number of yarns that are used to make up that weave. The higher the density, the sturdier the denim.

                                At Iron Heart we offer a range of densities in our denim. The now defunct UHR is famously dense after soaking, whereas the flagship 21oz denim offers a much looser weave despite the heaviness of the fabric, thus allowing for the jeans to be worn comfortably in warmer temperatures.''

                                So in my question I'm after the most dense denim IH has to offer.

                                I really like rose anvil stuff, and I have not seen anything like like that for clothing. Well maybe Carl Murawski

                                Favorite:
                                IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
                                IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
                                IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
                                IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

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                                • EdHE
                                  EdH
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                                  @Karol
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                                  @Karol Ah... my guess would be the 19oz LHT or the UHR after soaking then. Neither of which I have experience with, just going off the descriptions.

                                  Take the dive...

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                                    Mizmazzle
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                                    @Karol
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                                    @Karol Oh wow!! This is super interesting. I had no idea! Thanks for that thoughtful and informative information!

                                    In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                                      Karol
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                                      I would love to make such content as rose anvil, but for now I don't think that my knowledge of the subject matter is even close to give it justice.
                                      Even with Weston's videos I sometimes think that he made few uneducated assumptions about the materials and why something is being used instead of something else. On the other hand when those boots are cut in half we can all see it and decide ourselves what is important for us.
                                      I wish there was more videos made by the people from the industry that truly know those topics inside out. That is why I love Full Grain Podcast - https://www.youtube.com/@fullgrainpodcast by '' Leather tannery veterans Nick Horween (5th generation, Horween Leather) and Phil Kalas (Founder, Ashland Leather) cover manufacturing, leather, boots, denim, everyday carry and the talented people who are creating the world's finest products.''. They really go deep into the heart of the thing.
                                      The last two episodes were really awesome:
                                      EP48: Leather Tanning 101 -


                                      EP50: Horween Leather Tanner Explains Leather Finishing -

                                      Favorite:
                                      IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
                                      IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
                                      IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
                                      IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

                                      last edited by 20 Aug 2024, 16:42 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
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                                        goosehd
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                                        A good friend of mine (now passed) and I were having a discussion one day about playing guitar and I expressed my desire to play. His question to me was “What’s stopping you?” That has stuck with me for every I wish…

                                        I miss him and his lessons. A simple question that changed how I view many things.

                                        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

                                        last edited by goosehd 20 Aug 2024, 17:00 K 1 Reply Last reply 20 Aug 2024, 17:12 Reply Quote 3
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                                          Karol
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                                          @goosehd
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                                          @goosehd Such a great point man. And then one has to only define to what level they want to aspire and what will it take.

                                          Favorite:
                                          IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
                                          IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
                                          IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
                                          IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

                                          last edited by 20 Aug 2024, 17:12 G 1 Reply Last reply 20 Aug 2024, 17:14 Reply Quote 0
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