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    Fast Food - A "Guilty" Pleasure….

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    • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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      @mclaincausey:

      @Stuart.T there is also the Beyond Burger. It says gluten-free, and they appear to use pea protein instead of gluten for protein (far preferable IMO). It also has less instead of more saturated fat than ground beef. Again, coconut oil gives me pause, as well as the canola. But overall it sounds healthier to me than Impossible: less saturated fat, sodium, and carbohydrates.

      What's wrong with coconut oil? I thought coconut butter was like a superfood. And I rinse my mouth with coconut oil to help my teeth. (I spit it out when I am done).

      Edit: also, I am under the impression that it is artificial food and especially sugar that causes obesity and heart disease. I know Joe Rogan always has this nutritionist that says so. They say, dairy, carbs, sugar, and even certain plant foods (because they produce toxins to defend themselves) are bad for you and eat as much as you want of everything else.

      Edit 2: also soy contains plant based estrogen which is very bad for males.

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        I’ve heard tale of Emily,I think they are rumored to only make 50 burgers a night. Do you know anything about their outpost in the Village. I’ve been going to The Corner Bistro since the 70s,so it definitely hs a nostalgic feel for me. In my opinion their burgers haven’t changed in all these years,and as far as chefs go there was always just one guy manning the grill. If you ever want to go you wouldn’t have to twist my arm.

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        • ChrisC
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          @setandsetting:

          Shake Shack was great when it was a special thing and you had to wait on line for 40 min in Madison Square Park. But now that they're everywhere, the luster has worn off

          It wasn't that great even then.  They were never worth the effort, but people just said it was to justify the stupid wait.  I was thoroughly underwhelmed by the experience.  Now that I can go to the one five minutes from my office and wait a reasonable amount of time, their burgers aren't bad.

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            Of all the Fast Food burgers available to me in the NYC/NJ area,I don’t think anything compares to Shake Shack,especially the original location.

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            • mclaincauseyM
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              @Filthy:

              What's wrong with coconut oil? I thought coconut butter was like a superfood. And I rinse my mouth with coconut oil to help my teeth. (I spit it out when I am done).

              Yeah, a lot of the people I read love the stuff and believe the same thing. I did too until it drove my cholesterol very high (which isn't in itself necessarily bad, but the HDL/LDL ratios were). So I ditched it, and within weeks my markers were much improved. Everyone's physiology is different, but that experience made me come down on the side of mainstream orthodoxy around coconut oil–though to be fair, I think the research is far from settled. When I do saturated fats these days, it's usually grassfed ghee, though, being Southerners, we do keep bacon grease on hand.

              I think what makes coconut oil beneficial is the medium-chain triglycerides, and what makes it potentially harmful is the very high percentage of saturated fats.

              I know a lot of diets insist that vegetable oils, or at least canola, is beneficial, but I'll stick to olive and avocado oil for my unsaturated fats.

              Think it, be it.

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              • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                That's very interesting. It seems just about everything is bad for you to a certain extent. I know I used to eat that coconut butter just about every day when I was a vegan. I lost a ton of weight. I don't really take care of my health though. I just kind of do whatever.

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                  @filthy
                  I think the nutritionist you were talking about is Vinnie Tortorich. He has a great podcast of his own and a lot of free info about his thoughts on his website. The simplified version of his beliefs is no sugar and no grains. He considers grains/carbohydrates the same as sugar. Once they get broken down in the liver they become sugar. Throw the USDA guidelines out the window. My favorite quote of his “you can’t out exercise a bad diet”

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                  • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                    @filthy
                    I think the nutritionist you were talking about is Vinnie Tortorich. He has a great podcast of his own and a lot of free info about his thoughts on his website. The simplified version of his beliefs is no sugar and no grains. He considers grains/carbohydrates the same as sugar. Once they get broken down in the liver they become sugar. Throw the USDA guidelines out the window. My favorite quote of his “you can’t out exercise a bad diet”

                    @Sage954 actually the one I saw was Georgia Ede, MD. But she has the exact same philosophy.

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                      She is new to me. Good to have another opinion. I’m going to check her out. Thanks.

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                      • mclaincauseyM
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                        @Filthy @Sage954 I think that philosophy is valid. I like the way this article puts it.

                        The linked article makes the point that if homo sapiens' lifespan were a day, these foods–grains, refined sugars, many of the starches common in our diets (potatoes were literally poisonous when the Inca detoxified them through a process of freezing them in the mountains to kill the toxins, for example), legumes, etc.--would have entered our diets at 11:57 PM.

                        Ancestral diets are not trying to replicate what cavemen ate, to address a favorite straw man for people who disagree with them. The point is that our species did not evolve eating these post-agricultural-revolution foods, and the theory is that they activate genes and create symptoms that are bad for our health. Can we eat things that we didn't evolve eating? Sure, we feed cattle corn, and they didn't evolve to eat that--they evolved four stomachs just so that they could extract solar energy from grass, not from starch. So it makes them sick and forces farmers to pump them full of antibiotics, and it makes them fat (sound familiar?). Being able to digest something obviously doesn't mean it's good for us. Could we evolve to tolerate these kinds of foods better? I bet we could, but not in a few mere centuries or even millennia.

                        But the facts on the ground are a) we did not evolve to eat these foods and b) they clearly have a negative impact on our health. So those folks are right: as long as b) holds, we should get rid of them.

                        Yes, I understand that french fries are potatoes and hamburger buns and pizza crusts are made from grains 😃

                        Think it, be it.

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                          agree 100%. Feed lots are all carbs/corn to fatten the cattle. Does the same thing to us. Have you read the newest update on the weight and height of the average American. It’s astonishing. My biggest problem is that I like beer. Not exactly no grain no sugar.

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                          • mclaincauseyM
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                            @Sage954:

                            @mclaincausey
                            agree 100%. Feed lots are all carbs/corn to fatten the cattle. Does the same thing to us. Have you read the newest update on the weight and height of the average American. It’s astonishing. My biggest problem is that I like beer. Not exactly no grain no sugar.

                            With you on the beer. Looked up the update you mentioned. Wow.

                            https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr122-508.pdf

                            Not only is it sad for those who will suffer through metabolic diseases and their loved ones, it's sad for society as a whole, which will bear the economic burden of this disease.

                            Think it, be it.

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                            • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                              I could only eat 5. Soon my size ups will be size downs. Thank God I am going back to work next week.

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                              • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                                Houston Hobby airport, terminal E, really excellent food. Except the bread was pretty cold and gross.

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                                • Clint_DC
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                                  Where are you headed @Filthy?  Overseas?

                                  ATX IH Hoarder

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                                  • ChrisC
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                                    Yeah, terminal E has some of the better restaurants at Hobby.  There's a Niko Niko's over there, right?  If you like Greek food, you should definitely go there the next time you're passing through.

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                                      @Filthy:

                                      Houston Hobby airport, terminal E, really excellent food. Except the bread was pretty cold and gross.

                                      That looks tasty. There are a couple of bbq places in town I want to check out specifically for the brisket [emoji1786]

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                                      • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                                        @Clint_D I am working in a refinery in Colombia

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                                        • DougNgD
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                                          My favorite airport for food is SeaTac. Tempura salmon and clam chowder… 🙂

                                          I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                                          • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                                            Man, Penn Station has the best Italian Sub I have ever eaten!! Holy smokes!

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