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    • mclaincauseyM
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      Yeah–I know that the mechanics don't align with my intuition. But my shoulders feel so stable especially doing a medium to close grip on a barbell, and I feel that I kind of pull the bar apart laterally on presses (imagining pulling my hands away from each other during the press), which gives me the feeling (right or wrong) of stability.

      Think it, be it.

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      • neph93N
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        @mclaincausey:

        Yeah–I know that the mechanics don't align with my intuition. But my shoulders feel so stable especially doing a medium to close grip on a barbell, and I feel that I kind of pull the bar apart laterally on presses (imagining pulling my hands away from each other during the press), which gives me the feeling (right or wrong) of stability.

        I know exactly what you mean. One of the early cues I learned that helped me advance with benching was to «make your upper back like a table». It works. As long as your shoulders are fit [emoji38]

        “Some of those that work forces
        Are the same that burn crosses”

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        • Paul9221P
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          @mclaincausey:

          Is there any benefit to squatting with a trap bar over a trap bar deadlift? Big fan of the latter, but never thought of racking a trap bar.

          My chiropractor claims that squatting with a trap bar (i.e. you pick it up from the ground and stand up straight) puts a lot less load on your back and protects your lower back.  But I get your point.  As I'm thinking about the motion, a trap bar deadlift would look almost identical to a trap bar squat.

          I also listened to a podcast with one of those professional sports trainers about how he loves the deadlift but only uses a trap bar.  More specifically, he trains his athletes to perform the ascending motion and drop the weight at the top of the lift instead of performing the descending motion.  He elaborated that the ascent is the most beneficial aspect of the lift in adding burst power to sprinters and the descent is the leading cause of injury in the deadlift.

          Blanket-line all the things!!!

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          • mclaincauseyM
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            Interesting!

            The physics of a trap bar to me makes more sense. Keeping the weight centered instead of foreward. Then again, front squats are a thing, so I supposed it depends upon what you're trying to do. I just think deadlifts with trap bars feel much better.

            Think it, be it.

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            • Paul9221P
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              Back before the pandemic, I toyed with the idea of buying my own trap bar and taking it to the gym, but I just couldn't shake how ridiculous I'd feel carrying that thing in and out of the car 🙂

              Now that I have a garage gym, I have no excuse, except that it's the cost of a pair of UHR jeans that I'm eagerly awaiting/anticipating 😃

              Blanket-line all the things!!!

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              • neph93N
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                I’m a huge fan of goblet squats for protecting the back and shoulders.

                “Some of those that work forces
                Are the same that burn crosses”

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                • AlexA
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                  Anyone out there using a Whoop, @BOTC_OLLY and I started an Iron Heart team for a little friendly competition. Feel free to join using the Team Invite Code COMM-16FC15 or DM me your username and I can manually add you.

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                  • 68degreesorless6
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                    Do y’all like your whoops? I did a quick read on it but wasn’t immediately sold.

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                    • OllyO
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                      Definitely. Mainly for sleep and recovery.

                      Stop thinking and start fucking doing..

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                      • MattM
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                        I opened a beer while making dinner then Katie offered to jump in so I could work out.  I almost declined but then I was like it’s only shoulders, I’ll drink the beer instead of water. 

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                        • Paul9221P
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                          Just add some whey protein into the bottle and shake it up 😉

                          Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                          • GraemeG
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                            My brother used to work for the Scottish Institute of Sport, and the nutritionists there once worked out that beer was pretty close to perfect as a post-exercise drink! 😃

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                            • MattM
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                              I felt great.  My form was shit.

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                              • EdHE
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                                Covid is lingering, I still have the blocked nose and mild cough. Thankfully I have my own gym so can workout again this week (last week I was really bad with it), but I am running out of breath very early into sets. F*ck covid.

                                Take the dive...

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                                • iammortalcombatI
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                                  I switched from traditional bodybuilding several months ago, to "functional" bodybuilding a la Revival Strength. The program is done by an ex-crossfitter who was tired of his body feeling so beat up. I was right there with him. Pushing closer to 40 these next couple of years, my body was starting to constantly hurt even with mobility work and stretching. It got bad when I threw my back after hitting a deadlift PR during covid (~243 kilos or 535 freedom units).

                                  This week is benchmark week. I was challenged to do a 5 rep squat max and then a single after. Managed to pulled off a top set of 365 for 5 and then a single at 405. No PRs on this round, but the best part - no hip, back, or knee pain as i have seemed to correct all of them over the last 6 months.

                                  I just wanted to tell someone since I lift alone. My girl knocked out a 160lb 5rm too.

                                  Just noticing lots of folks here complaining of aches and pains, and the general idea on the internet about squatting/deadlifting being bad for you. They are not. Squatting and deadlifting incorrectly are bad for you.

                                  I'm 36 and continuing to improve my joints and overall strength daily. Have been doing this stuff seriously since 2008.

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                                  • Paul9221P
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                                    @iammortalcombat:

                                    I switched from traditional bodybuilding several months ago, to "functional" bodybuilding a la Revival Strength. The program is done by an ex-crossfitter who was tired of his body feeling so beat up. I was right there with him. Pushing closer to 40 these next couple of years, my body was starting to constantly hurt even with mobility work and stretching. It got bad when I threw my back after hitting a deadlift PR during covid (~243 kilos or 535 freedom units).

                                    This week is benchmark week. I was challenged to do a 5 rep squat max and then a single after. Managed to pulled off a top set of 365 for 5 and then a single at 405. No PRs on this round, but the best part - no hip, back, or knee pain as i have seemed to correct all of them over the last 6 months.

                                    I just wanted to tell someone since I lift alone. My girl knocked out a 160lb 5rm too.

                                    Just noticing lots of folks here complaining of aches and pains, and the general idea on the internet about squatting/deadlifting being bad for you. They are not. Squatting and deadlifting incorrectly are bad for you.

                                    I'm 36 and continuing to improve my joints and overall strength daily. Have been doing this stuff seriously since 2008.

                                    I'm pretty happy with my system right now but I'm always on the lookout for a replacement, just in case. Got any details?  Gonna be 42 this year and I'm dealing with all of those aches now and then.

                                    Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                                    • EdHE
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                                      @iammortalcombat:

                                      I switched from traditional bodybuilding several months ago, to "functional" bodybuilding a la Revival Strength. The program is done by an ex-crossfitter who was tired of his body feeling so beat up. I was right there with him. Pushing closer to 40 these next couple of years, my body was starting to constantly hurt even with mobility work and stretching. It got bad when I threw my back after hitting a deadlift PR during covid (~243 kilos or 535 freedom units).

                                      This week is benchmark week. I was challenged to do a 5 rep squat max and then a single after. Managed to pulled off a top set of 365 for 5 and then a single at 405. No PRs on this round, but the best part - no hip, back, or knee pain as i have seemed to correct all of them over the last 6 months.

                                      I just wanted to tell someone since I lift alone. My girl knocked out a 160lb 5rm too.

                                      Just noticing lots of folks here complaining of aches and pains, and the general idea on the internet about squatting/deadlifting being bad for you. They are not. Squatting and deadlifting incorrectly are bad for you.

                                      I'm 36 and continuing to improve my joints and overall strength daily. Have been doing this stuff seriously since 2008.

                                      Nice. I am similar age, but only been lifting since 2012 or so. I recently switched to more of a "powerbuilding" programme as opposed to a pure strength programme. Still in the hypertrophy cycles, and my goodness doing 8-10 rep sets and deliberately leaving reps in the tank is a hell of a lot easier than pushing myself to near failure like I have been for years.

                                      @iammortalcombat:

                                      Just noticing lots of folks here complaining of aches and pains, and the general idea on the internet about squatting/deadlifting being bad for you. They are not. Squatting and deadlifting incorrectly are bad for you.

                                      To add a little nuance to this bit, I think I read or heard somewhere that regular lifters have fewer back problems than the average person. The hypothesis, which seems plausible to me, is that because they are trained their back will be better able to handle injury caused by incorrect form when lifting (i.e. daily life). While it's anecdotal, when I think of all the people in my life that I know that don't lift and their complaints about their back injuries caused by silly things like their kid wriggling funny when they picked them up and throwing something out of whack, it seems to make sense to me.

                                      Take the dive...

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                                      • EdHE
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                                        @Paul9221:

                                        I'm pretty happy with my system right now but I'm always on the lookout for a replacement, just in case. Got any details?  Gonna be 42 this year and I'm dealing with all of those aches now and then.

                                        I'm running the Juggernaut AI programme which is available as a subscription app on iTunes and Google, etc. I have my own gym in the garage since lockdowns so I see the subscription as basically replacing my gym membership fees. I'm running their "powerbuilding" programme, which has 4-5 hypertrophy cycles with nice, easy, 8-10 rep sets, before doing two strength cycles at the end to test new 1 rep maxes, etc. I'm still in cycle 4 or something, so not gotten into those strength cycles yet, but so far the higher rep work has led to far fewer complaints as far as joints are concerned.

                                        Take the dive...

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                                        • Paul9221P
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                                          @EdH:

                                          @Paul9221:

                                          I'm pretty happy with my system right now but I'm always on the lookout for a replacement, just in case. Got any details?  Gonna be 42 this year and I'm dealing with all of those aches now and then.

                                          I'm running the Juggernaut AI programme which is available as a subscription app on iTunes and Google, etc. I have my own gym in the garage since lockdowns so I see the subscription as basically replacing my gym membership fees. I'm running their "powerbuilding" programme, which has 4-5 hypertrophy cycles with nice, easy, 8-10 rep sets, before doing two strength cycles at the end to test new 1 rep maxes, etc. I'm still in cycle 4 or something, so not gotten into those strength cycles yet, but so far the higher rep work has led to far fewer complaints as far as joints are concerned.

                                          I'm also on a hypertrophy program in the garage!  It's about 4 days of lifting per week and the reps are usually 4-7, 7-10, 10-15.  Sometimes reps go as high as 25 for light stuff with bands.  I use a remote trainer who puts together the programs on his website and answers questions via email.

                                          I briefly flirted with going back to heavy lifts (2 sets of 5) and managed to hurt my back and hip within 2 weeks LOL.  Nothing serious, at least nothing that rolling my back over a lacrosse ball couldn't fix, but serious enough to knock some sense into my head about my age 🙂

                                          And on those non-lifting days, I ride the assault bike.  Love that thing!

                                          Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                                          • iammortalcombatI
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                                            I'm pretty happy with my system right now but I'm always on the lookout for a replacement, just in case. Got any details?  Gonna be 42 this year and I'm dealing with all of those aches now and then.

                                            Check out revival strength or Marcus filly on Instagram.

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