@Mizmazzle Well same chest size as me basically, so if I want to wear this over sweats for ex., which I might a lot because of the weather where I live, the slightly larger P2P might do the trick.
Might be a bit large over a T but ok, nothing's never perfect.
Will wait for the other measurements from IHG to decide.
Thanks again man for the efforts, I hope I can help you or someone else later down the road 
@Shane-B Hey Shane,
I've just sent an email a few minutes ago in response to Axel to whom I talked to this afternoon.
Thank you guys for all the help 
@Mizmazzle said in IHSB-BB-NAT - Natural Horsehide Jacket - The Bareback:
UHFs can fit under it but are very restricted so I almost never wear it that way
Do you by any chance know (and want to share 
) your chest size ?
I was almost certain I could not fit in the "M" (especially sleeves that would be too short) but when I look at your pictures the sleeves seems quite long although they are only 24". The ones from the "M" at IH Germany are at 25.19"
@Mizmazzle Thx man for the detailed answer !
In the meantime I had contacted IH Germany, and indeed the charts measurements would have been ideal for me, but Axel was kind enough to measure the 2 "L" they have in stock, and P2P was 60,5cm (23,8189 inches), as for the only "M" it was 58,5cm (23,0315 inches) which is way to big for me sadly 
Real bummer since I had really been drooling at all the pictures you did post here on this thread; always wanted a very light brown leather jacket (all brown jacket are mostly too dark for my taste). Had also being eyeing IHSB-TGN-NAT, but the last "M" that would have fitted me is also sold 
Not sure I'm going to like the new leather from the pictures I saw but never say never 
I guess this is fate, I will stash the money away in the hope that something from the coming fall/winter collection blows my mind, which let's be honest, is very likely to happen 
@Mizmazzle : Hey man, sorry to tag you, but I wanted to ask you...
Regarding sizing of this jacket, how would say it compares to let's say the 21oz indigo type III jacket ? (if you have it) Is it comparable ?
I've a hard time imagining how thick the fabric would be on this one, and what needs to be accounted for against the measurement charts, especially since I don't know how thick the lining is.
@Alex Thx for the answer I'll shoot them an email and report here for the rest of the forum
@Bailey : Thx for the info !
But technicalities aside, is the batch from Germany already with this new leather ? Or still with the old one ? Just for clarification, sorry if I'm dense 
Description on IH Germany still says "Italian Natural Horsehide 1,3 mm", but not sure what "Blattwerk" refers to (brand or type leather).
Yeah saw that too, and was also wondering too if the leather is still the one so praised by @Mizmazzle or if it's already another one...
Wallet getting itchy 
Let's say one man is daring enough to try to wear and keep this shinny stuff white .....and since fabric looks to be bleached anyway, do you guys think harsher product can be used in case of spoiling ? Since cold wash seems to still be the recommendation here.
Not sure many people got this one, but if there are any feedback, shoot....I read all other model's thread for this white denim and found very little useful info, except that it does not stretch much
@Niney Thanks man
Btw for me the concerns about sleeves is more that they are often too short
I swear I have some chimpanzee gene left in me
I like the collar "beefy" like this, but I get what you say... for me it's when I try to put a jacket with this shirt; there is some weird collar competition going on
It arrived 
I think the sizing is top notch ! Thx here also to @JoshC for having measured the remaining shirts in my size to find me a perfect match 
Always some issues for me with sleeves length, but here they fit perfectly imo, and the slightly shorter length versus the charts is really to my liking . Now I really need to wash this one carefully as there isn't really room for any shrinking.
Received them this morning ! Really great and all I was hoping for in terms of fit/fabric.
Thx @JoshC for having taken the time to help me finding a good size :-), and other members for the info that helped sizing this thing correctly.
@tnjyoung Cool man thanks for the detailed answer, nice results imo.
I fear my office job will never allow for really pronounced fades but we'll see
@mudhogen @Niney : I guess new forumers/IH discoverers always end up seeing this thread, reading it, and buying this damn shirt !
Bad weather + bored + reading forum = 
Will be my first western shirt, which have always been slightly less appealing to me than work ones, probably because I'm less used to them because I'm from Europe. A little worried about the length style wise, but I've been pleasantly surprised by the 3 shirts I have bought from IH until now, so I'll trust the grand architect 
@tnjyoung How many washes ? Did you wear it constantly during those 13 months ?
Got this one too, now with the 21oz indigo I have my next winter rotation 
Simple but incredible look 
@Freeman Great info ! I read the other topics for this denim (all other models), and so it looks like this denim will stretch less than the "signature" one...
@AdamJ ...so I'll probably do like you say, thx
Thx guys, lots of products release this Friday, no ? Will be a busy day for you all Good luck
@Freeman : Hey and sorry to summon you but I had one more question since you have had this pair for long...
Did you get a full inch stretch in the waist ? More ? I've lost some weight recently and I need to re-think my sizing accordingly, so I cannot use my Indigo 21oz as reference 
