Posts made by KA56

This might be a weird question, but ive been trying to get to the bottom of why my indigo 1955 dont feel as comfortable as my overdyed pair despite similar levels of break-in. I always feel like the seat of my pants isn't quite on my butt in the indigos, and my phone and wallet (which I keep in my back pockets) always catch when I move.

So I did what any psycho would do. I took a tape measure to every part of each and they're within 1/8" across the board EXCEPT in where the back pockets sit.

On the overdyes they're 0.5" higher: 5.5" from the inside corner to the top of the waistband, and 11.5 from the bottom of the pocket.

The indigo measure 6" and 12" respectively. Its just lower enough that part of whatever is in my back pocket sits on my hamstring and not my glute.

Now normally Id chalk this up to tolerances, but I have 2 pair of each (with how rare restocks are, and with this being the only cut that works for me, I keep an eye out for gently used pairs and have managed to snag a backup of both). And they exhibit the same discrepancy: both overdye pockets sit about 0.5" higher.

So I guess my question is if this is a result of the overdying process shrinking them vertically? A different pattern (tho that seems unlikely)? Or just weird luck of the draw?

Just got my custom Morrisons in- brown cxl horsehide with brown roughout uppers. Gonna save these for the Patina Thunderdome.

Ive got a problem though because im already workshopping my next pair. Its either gonna be a classic Boss in black tie domain or one in black roughout on a wedge...

Self Edge model fit today

Whitesville (XL), IH-1955s 21oz OD (34), Drkshdw

Not pictured is a Y's For Men black leather belt

Happy Monday!

21oz OD vest, Whitesville tee, Sugar Cane belt, IH 1955 21oz jeans, Wesco Boss 7500

The 1955 in SBG or even 142bb.

Anything in black warp/white weft. Ive come across one pair of 634s in this fabric on ebay and they look sick.

More unmodified T3 jackets. They dont have to be 21oz but thatd be nice

Beams jacket
Whitesville tee
Belt from Etsy
21oz 1955 jeans
RW boots

@Shane-B so is it a similar mid rise but with a looser leg?

My quest for wider and straighter fits this past year has led me away from IH denim and towards Samurai, with the S3100 edging out the 1955 as my most worn pair. Now with the news of the 684 though I may be about to re-commit to IH pants!

Ended up grabbing two pairs of these over the past month. Im between sizes (small waist and rear, big thighs) and initially went with a 34 for the bigger leg before getting annoyed at the oversized waist/seat making it impossible to fully cinch a belt without weird puckering.

Reached back out to the crew and they were excellent at hooking it up with a tag 33 with a relatively bigger leg. They arrived yesterday and fit like a glove. Im about 8 hours into wearing them and can feel them opening up already. Once the the seat/upper thigh open up a bit these will be a perfect slim straight jean.

Still going to hold on to the 34s for when my weight creeps up or for those days when I want a slouchier, more relaxed fit. And honestly you can never have too many IH pants.

The pics with the wrangler shirt are the new 33s, the ones with the Schott are the 34s

@northsouthdenimguy

Appreciate the detailed writeup! Im a 9.25 heel to toe, and a 9 heel to ball. Width is smack on the line between D and E, but I have a high instep on my right foot, so generally round up to a wider size where I can.

The attached pic shows where my ball lines up on my right foot (the bigger of the two), and where my big toe sits relative to the toe of the boot. It's hard to see, but Ive pushed my toe up as high as I can and Im pointing towards the tip.

Can I get a sense check on sizing?

I have a pair in 9E from The Shop Vancouver in olive petrolio horsehide (left). The first time I put them on they slipped on without any issues, were comfortable from the get go, but with the insole and thick socks, they feel roomy after a month of wear. I have a decent amount of heel slip, but I dont feel like the boots are just going to come off.

Wanted to get the same boots in black CXL (right) but could only find 8.5E in stock. They were absolutely hellish getting on the first time, and even though its only half a size smaller, the boot feels significantly tighter to the point that I had to take the insole out. I can wiggle my toes, and have maybe a thumbs width between my big toe and the tip of the boot, but I feel my big toe pressing against the top of the boot when I walk in a way that I dont with the petrolio pair.

They aren't uncomfortable per say (I've worn them one full day so far- 13 hours including standing for 3 hours at a concert), so Im trying to figure out if I'd be ok keeping this size despite the tight fit and letting it break in (and how much better I can expect them to feel with break in), or if Im better off cutting my loss while they're still in great condition and flipping them.

For additional reference I'm about a 9.25 on the brannock and at their widest, my feet sit just between the D and E widths.

@Johnnyutah247 yeah, I tried the 33 but couldn't pull it all the way up because of tightness in the lower thigh.

I dont mind wearing a belt, I'm mostly worried that the thighs won't stretch much but the butt will, and Ill end up with a diaper looking top block on skinny legs

Picked these up at SE. Was happy with the fit in store (couldnt pull the 33 up lol) and had them hemmed, but now Im worried I may have gotten ahead of myself.

With how much these stretch am I screwed long term or will they be alright with a belt?

Jumped on that one-off size 34 restock. These are a bit boxier than my overdyed pair in the same tag size but I'm guessing that'll settle with some wear and a hot wash or two.

Love this cut so much!

@Go-For-Chill sure, but I haven't sized jeans based on the waist measurement in years.

Thigh, rise, and knee (in that order) matter much more for a good fit. If the waist is too big, you can throw on a belt and be fine (assuming you can fill out the seat). If the thigh, rise, or knee are too small, that's a pair of pants that's never going to look or feel good, regardless of how perfectly they can stay up without a belt.

@Go-For-Chill interesting. I also have all three (tag 34) and my experience is the total opposite.

The 634 is the tightest of the bunch. The seat and upper thigh are painted on due to the lower rise giving less overall volume up top, though below the knee the leg is plenty roomy. Oddly enough they're still very comfortable with excellent mobility despite how tight they look.

The 888 is an odd middle ground. Pulled up properly, the waist and seat are both too big for me, but the leg is one step up from skinny jeans (I tried a 33 and had difficulty pulling them all the way up over my thighs). Worn a bit lower so that the back rise slouches a bit, the leg becomes much more roomy and comfortable, though at the cost of a flattering overall silhouette.

And the 1955 are the loosest of the bunch. The top feels similarly oversized to the 888, but because the leg is wider it looks like a balanced regular/repro fit with some good drape. I also have them in a tag 33 and they look kind of like the model pic on the 21oz indigo product page. Which is to say they're perfectly wearable and comfortable, but the overall silhouette is too slim for my liking.

@m4xime Really depends on the fit you're after. If you want a very slim fit you can do 634 in the same size as 888/1955. If you want something with more room to breathe, go +1 from your 888/1955 to get your 634 size.

I take a 34 in 888/1955 (+2 from what I'd need in the waist in order to get the fit I want in the leg), and while I can squeeze my legs into a 34 634, I would need a 35 to start feeling comfortable in the thighs pre-stretch.

Haven't taken these off since I got them in- Texas humidity be damned. Paired today with the 14oz OD type III. Im pleasantly surprised with how well the higher rise and longer jacket interact.

The indigo pair is sitting in my closet untouched for now, and I may bring them out for this year's indigo invitational.

@yannis I would agree, with the caveat that someone who struggles with thigh measurements should still size these based on leg rather than waistband.

They're bigger than the 634 but not so much bigger that they can be treated as a relaxed cut where waistband is all that matters.

And also as pointed out, little to no pressure on a part of the garment = little to no stretch there.

@JohnM Just got tried my indigo pair on. They feel about the same as the OD one size up. The waistband is a hair more snug, but I'd imagine that after a week of wear they'll even out.