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    Peter
    啓蒙家
    Joined: 6 Mar 2010

    @mclaincausey:

    Is it just the lining?  VEB may have some thoughts on this one.

    not sure and it's hard to see clearly inside the boot, but the crack definitely feels "substantial" haha..

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      mclaincausey
      見習いボス
      Joined: 12 Apr 2013

      What I mean is, is it visible from the outside of the boot?

      Think it, be it.

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        Finn666
        Joined: 20 Jan 2011

        @Seul:

        You're both nuts.

        Finn: did you send me a message through What'sApp?.. Cause I got a new message but I can't read it… The li'l icon on my screen is driving me nuts... Anyone have an idea what to do?..

        nope, haven't send you one lately…post a screenshot, maybe i/we can help afterwards.

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          Peter
          啓蒙家
          Joined: 6 Mar 2010

          @mclaincausey:

          What I mean is, is it visible from the outside of the boot?

          sry, no it is not.

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            tatmantall
            Joined: 24 Dec 2012

            Where your boots stored with cedar shoe trees in them or any kind of stuffing? It kind of looks like the insole split which could be from in addressed moisture in the area they could cause a bit of rot. Not positive though, the pictures not to clear. If is indeed only that I would think a knowledgeable cobbler could fix it in a jiffy

            "I know to you it may sound strange, but I wish it would rain…"- The Temptations

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              Peter
              啓蒙家
              Joined: 6 Mar 2010

              yeah ill take them to my cobbler eventually, apparently hes on vacation! no, i did not store them with shoes trees or anything else, but always let them dry thoroughly when used.

              ill see what my cobbler charges. if its too much, i might leave em as is cuz theyre too small. love them though ^_^

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                tatmantall
                Joined: 24 Dec 2012

                Hope it works out for ya man! It might nevertheless looking into a pair of cedar shoe trees their pretty cheap and will absorb any moisture that might not be noticed. Just a suggestion but they do help and at only $15 buck or do it a cheap investment that can really prolong the life of nice footwear.  🙂

                "I know to you it may sound strange, but I wish it would rain…"- The Temptations

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                  junglo
                  Joined: 1 Jul 2013

                  Hi guys,
                  I'm a UK10 in Red Wing chukka but the Red Wing Mocs UK10 were too big, I think I could have easily gone a full size down.

                  Are the Thorogood Mocs the same size as the Red Wing Mocs?

                  Has anyone else found the Red Wing Mocs to be bigger than the chukka?

                  Cheers

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                    urbanwoodsman
                    Banned
                    Joined: 16 Aug 2011

                    Moving this from Triple Works Pipeline…

                    First off, wow.
                    Some real gem posts in there today.

                    Can't say I was expecting so many childish remarks from you guys.

                    I can't think of anyone more passionate about Iron Heart than Mike. Not one person comes to mind.
                    Don't ask me how but for someone who has never actually manufactured or been to any mills he knows a ridiculous amount of info about the techniques/fabrics all these companies use.
                    Do you think he's giving criticism just to be a dick?
                    No, he fucking loves IH(especially the tees) and wants everything about the products to be perfect. He also wants to be able to buy a size large and it fit similar to all the other IH tees he has.

                    @Giles:

                    @MikeC:

                    I know IH is not a tee shirt company.

                    We sell 1,000's of T shirts a year.  We are a Japanese company, any product that we make (unless I specifically commission it) has to span the East/West sizing Divide.  If they don't fit you, then cool, go buy something else.  And I am not going to specifically commission a special size run because a) The margins are tiny on Tee's, so it just isn't worth it, and b) the other half of my customer base would start bitching.

                    Giles, you definitely took this quote the wrong way.  I didn't read that as an insult at all. Mike was basically saying that he knows IH's focus is not on T-Shirts. That's it. Unless the tagline under the IH logo says "6.5oz Heavy Tees," then I apologize.

                    @Giles:

                    But if you are consistently rude, derogatory and finish every other post with a snide "Oh. I forgot, Iron Heart is not a T-shirt company", then any "suggestions" or "advice" you give will be ignored.

                    If you behaved like that at my house, you would not be invited back.  This forum is no different.

                    You misquoted him there and definitely took it out of context.

                    Here's the actual quote,
                    @MikeC:

                    The loopwheeled fabrics don't shrink, at all, horizontally, but they def shrink an inch or so vertically with several wears and washes. Also, shoulders need to be slimmed a little, like Seul said. I don't see why it's such a problem to make the loopwheeled shirts in the same cut as the OG IH tees.  Please don't take this personal, it's just some creative criticism. I know IH is not a tee shirt company.

                    The forum is actually a lot different. If we were all sitting at your house we would be having a civilized discussion about why there are sizing issues within all brands. Instead, anytime the subject comes up it gets changed to, "guys stop being OCD, just buy them or don't. Giles, you're amazing, thank you so much for this community." Yes, this is great community full of all types of people from all around the world. It's a very unique amazing place. It's also a place for us to voice our opinions whether you like them or not(unless the Mods don't like them of course).

                    I understand small sizing differences between runs but some things are crazy off, like 1-2 sizes off.

                    Does it just come down to human error?
                    Did you switch factories?
                    If you use the same pattern with the same material shouldn't it be relatively close?

                    This quote is awesome btw.
                    @MikeC:

                    Actually, once a pattern is made, its made. Giles has mentioned on several occasions that its too expensive to go back and change ANYTHING on an existing pattern.  If all the denim was one washed Unsanforized, then I'd get a 0.5" discrepancy, here and there, but not a full 2 inches in the waistband (like the 666S).  I even mentioned that the Vulcan sizing looks like the 634S cut is evolving, since its noticeably slimmer, but I was told that Haraki would never change that cut (this is documented in the 634SV thread).

                    Again, this is all out of love for the brand. So no reason to get upset. We all want Iron Heart to be perfect.

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                      derivative666
                      Joined: 30 Jan 2011

                      Eloquently put,  I couldn't have said it better myself. Urb you are like the "Faulkner" of the social media world.

                      "Obstacles are stepping-stones That guide us to our goals"

                      "honorable mention to the bearded giant aka derivative666 for being a stand up dude & not changing with the seasons since i've been around these parts" Monday

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                        Seul
                        Joined: 24 Nov 2009

                        I was actually thinking about this, and was gonna PM Giles saying I think he mistook what Hicks/ MikeC was saying… I also don't have the feeling at all that Hicks feels or acts entitled, or is deliberately being an asshole - I think it comes very natural to him...
                        I understand what he's saying, and partially agree, but I just roll with the inconsistencies I guess... I just go by size charts and if something changes during a second batch, hell that might be good for a group of people who couldn't pull off that piece before...

                        It's just like beer y'know... There are inevitable changes... No matter how much you yell at the brewer that the 2001 version was best...

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                          Thanks for that Shane!  I was at work trying to think of how to phrase a similar response.  After this weekend I've been reading a bunch of reviews on phish.net, and let me tell you, phish fans are much more critical of the band than we are of Iron Heart.  We love Phish at Dick's, and We love Iron Heart!!

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                            derivative666
                            Joined: 30 Jan 2011

                            ^i like this guy

                            "Obstacles are stepping-stones That guide us to our goals"

                            "honorable mention to the bearded giant aka derivative666 for being a stand up dude & not changing with the seasons since i've been around these parts" Monday

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                              joesaintjohn
                              啓蒙家
                              Joined: 9 Aug 2012

                              @derivative666:

                              ^i like these guys

                              "Obstacles are stepping-stones That guide us to our goals"

                              Fat dudes need good clothes too.

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                                cc.rider
                                Joined: 29 Jun 2012

                                MikeC  did not seem to be the one coming across as the asshole.

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                                  mclaincausey
                                  見習いボス
                                  Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                                  @cc.rider:

                                  MikeC  did not seem to be the one coming across as the asshole.

                                  Yeah sorry about that guys, having a serious case of the Wednesdays…

                                  Think it, be it.

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                                    Finn666
                                    Joined: 20 Jan 2011

                                    amen Shane… thanks for open up the eyes of some guys !
                                    (that is whoever feels affected with the above !) ...

                                    some are way too fucking sensible when somebody has to say something against (=pos. or neg.critic) a fabric, cut or against whatever the feck comes from Japan. ass kissing isn't the thing to do, it's all about kicking it and trying to support the company we all love so god damn much!...
                                    if you think you have to raise your voice, fecking do so 😠 ...not go overboard though, kids might be reading...

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                                      Arabit
                                      Joined: 19 Jun 2012

                                      Great post Urb.

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                                        Giles
                                        IHUK Crew
                                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                        I repeat, Haraki and I are open to constructive criticism, that is one of the reasons the Forum is here.  There are ways of being constructive and there are ways of just down right annoying us.

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                          Schorsch
                                          Joined: 3 May 2012

                                          I'm with Giles here.
                                          There is a way expressing criticism, and saying

                                          […] the inconsistentcies in sizing are ridiculous.  Every tee has a different length.  Whenever sizing seems fucked up, you roll with it.

                                          is not the way.
                                          Try to read that out loud to someone who offers you a well-made product he cares deeply about. See if he want's to do business with you after that.

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