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    • mclaincauseyM
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      @Giles:

      I'll give you an example.

      One of my retailers was thinking of stocking Naked & Famous.

      He contacted me and asked me my opinion and whether I would mind.  My response was that whilst I would not wear them myself, the brand serves a useful purpose and (imo) helps bring consumers into the premium denim scene.

      One of his other suppliers threatened to pull their product from the store if Naked and Famous was stocked.  Now that is silly, spiteful and way too far up their own arse…..

      One look at the rawdenim subreddit confirms that N&F is THE starter denim brand. Well, I guess there are some going the kickstarter route. But N&F and Unbranded are the way many people dip their toe in, and that can be only good for higher tier brands in the long run.

      I don't call that hate as much as I would stupidity and fearful anticompetitive business tactics. Not intelligent at all. They can at least know who their competition is if they're going to be little bitches.

      Think it, be it.

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      • seawolfS
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        When I started learning about good denim, I was actually tempted by Nudie first, but never actually pulled the trigger. It was a good intro mentally into the pricing of higher end denim. I don't think I could have easily mentally made the leap from Lucky Jeans to Iron Heart without Nudie in-between. I like to do my research before buying anything, and my research made it apparent that IH was more the brand for me. N&F and Nudie serve their purpose as an accessible intro brand.

        “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

        @zeebeeleather

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          ^Nudie is huge in Australia. Pretty much the #1 fashion Denim. Sass & Bide #1/2 for women, ksubi were up there as is/are bella latino. Seven For All Mankind, Lucky still get up with a specific audience, the rest wear Levis/Wranger/Guess/Gap/Jeans West.

          I look at every pair of denim I see to try ID it (mentally it's second nature these days). Have only see 1 pair of APC's who's owner I didn't know in 7 years. Other than that have not see any selvedge denim in the city ever. I work 5 days a week in the CBD and see all walks of life.

          The summary is Nudie is #1 down here, and was my personal gateway (almost a thread in itself). Nudie>APC>5EPxSF>SugarCane>Levis>SExSugarCane>PBJ>IronHeart was my journey.

          [And I still own every pair except for the 5EPxSF, bummed I threw them out now, at the time they were beyond my understanding of what could be repaired]

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          • Finn666F
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            if you life in australia, visit the nudie store…the guys there are legends and besides that great friends of mine!...

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              @tatmantall:

              Personally I don't have the time… I have a Sufu account, just really like the community here and since time is sparse I choose to keep my residence here.

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                @Finn666:

                if you life in australia, visit the nudie store…the guys there are legends and besides that great friends of mine!...

                I've been twice, back in 2005. Parking's a bitch (or was then). A very cool store tho! How do you know them?

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                • tatmantallT
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                  I have the same denim identification routine; unfortunately in my small town there is one "fashion" store, its name is "the buckle" for those familiar and everyone wears their clothing lines, same shirts, sane denim with gawdy, over done pocket designs, sometimes sequins are even worked in, as well as giant over sized over gauge thread stitching… It's hideous, they are all cookie cutter kids. It would actually be refreshing to see a pair if APC or nudie, even more so yo see IH but doubt it will happen. I'm the about the only one into this stuff around here. I keep quiet and my 2 cents to myself because when I explain they look at me like I'm insane.

                  "I know to you it may sound strange, but I wish it would rain…"- The Temptations

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                  • Finn666F
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                    @Snowy:

                    @Finn666:

                    if you life in australia, visit the nudie store…the guys there are legends and besides that great friends of mine!...

                    I've been twice, back in 2005. Parking's a bitch (or was then). A very cool store tho! How do you know them?

                    well i've met the boys and girls back in 2008…nudie jeans co. invited me for a 3day trip to italy (bologna) to join them at their "kick-off" (their 2 times in a year get-together where all of them checkout the new collections and all!)...they invited me cuz i've won the wear&tear contest they hosted, with my pair of Thin Finn's (that's why the sufu forum name btw.!).
                    so like 50-60 boys and girls from all over the globe came to bologna...there were people from germany, france, spain, portugal, finland, sweden, denmark, usa, canada, italy, ... and o/course the aussie guys.
                    we went to visit the factory, was gifted a pair of raw denim, had a photoshoot and o/course got drunk as hell the most of the time 😃
                    that was also the time i've met Jens Olav Dankertsen the owner of Livid Jeans...back then he had some ideas about making his own jeans "one day" and now, seing the he really now has his own brand is pretty dope imo 🙂

                    btw. just came across these two pics from said photoshoot:

                    along with the guy from canada

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                    • ChrisC
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                      I don't get hating other brands, either.  It's just clothing, so what's the big deal?  I've never owned a pair of N&F, because they don't fit me well at all, but I've always admired the company's willingness to try anything in a pair of jeans (glow-in-the-dark! rainbow core! camouflage weft!).  There's plenty of room in the world for the full spectrum of denim nerds, from history prospectors like Mike Harris to some SuFu kid rocking raspberry scratch-n-sniff N&F skinny jeans.  I don't like it all, in fact I dislike most stuff outside basic 5 pocket indigo straight cuts, but that's just, like, my opinion, man.

                      As for other forums, I'm a member of SuFu, Styleforum and Denimbro, but I almost never post in any of them, simply because I don't have enough time to visit them all extensively.  The IHF is home, and this is where my friends are, so until that changes, you're stuck with me.

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                      • derivative666D
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                        What model numbers are these t shirts

                        "Obstacles are stepping-stones That guide us to our goals"

                        "honorable mention to the bearded giant aka derivative666 for being a stand up dude & not changing with the seasons since i've been around these parts" Monday

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                        • van OlzonV
                          van Olzon
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                          ^
                          IHT-0907
                          IHT-0909

                          . BEHIND EVERY CLEVER GIRL IS A GUY WITH A BEARD AND GLASSES .

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                          • FurattoHeddoF
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                            D666 they are IHT-0907 and 0909…

                            http://www.ironheart.jp/products/IHT0907_0912.html

                            "Don't ever be sorry"

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                            • SeulS
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                              Have a SuFu acct, only post in the IH thread.

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                              • seawolfS
                                seawolf
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                                @Chris:

                                The IHF is home, and this is where my friends are, so until that changes, you're stuck with me.

                                shit.

                                “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                                @zeebeeleather

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                                • ChrisC
                                  Chris
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                                  I'm sure that reaction is shared by many.  Feels good to not be alone, doesn't it?

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                                  • SeulS
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                                    Yes it does.

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                                    • seawolfS
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                                      Ha!

                                      “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                                      @zeebeeleather

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                                      • Megatron1505M
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                                        I post here because I'm banned from almost everywhere else for arguing about Batman  😞

                                        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                        • seawolfS
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                                          Ask a random question or you'll be asked to leave.

                                          “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                                          @zeebeeleather

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                                          • Megatron1505M
                                            Megatron1505
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                                            Who's the better Batman writer, Frank Miller or Grant Morrison?

                                            Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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