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    • injunjackI
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      @Giles:

      And anyway, motorcyclists "borrowed" the look anyway:

      "The classic motorcycle jacket really established itself not long after WWII. It’s at this point where the link from military flight jackets to highway style was forged. The ravages of war had taken its toll on some more than others, and many disaffected young men returning after the war found themselves unable to re-assimilate with society – they were lost. The camaraderie and feeling of belonging that came from being part of a military unit was wanting, and so, for some, it was replaced by taking to the road with other like-minded types, on motorcycles, and a new cult of highway style was born.

      In the formative period of this culture the ‘motorcycle jacket’ per se didn’t exist. Only organisations such as the police had purpose made garments. For the young civilian motorcyclist a flight jacket was often the garment of choice – especially if it was his ex-service garment. (The ‘Hells Angels’ was the nickname given to the 303rd Bomb Group long before it ever became synonymous with the infamous outlaw bike gang. Aircrew actually painted the title on the backs of their flight jackets; it’s highly probable that this was the inspiration and source of gang's name). In the cult movie ‘The Wild One’ (1953) many of the jackets being worn by the tearaways are flight jackets."

      Sorry to say, that's pretty much BS.

      This is quoted from Schott's website
      "Eager to innovate, it was no surprise that Irving Schott then set his sights on another American classic in the making - the motorcycle. In 1928, Irving Schott designed and produced the first leather motorcycle jacket. Retailing for $5.50 at a Long Island Harley Davidson distributor, the Perfecto was durable, rugged, and immediately embraced. To this new generation of "bikers," the Perfecto was a symbol of the excitement, adventure and danger that fueled their fascination with motorcycles."

      I don't want this to become a peeing contest or flame war so I'll just let it be….

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      • rocketR
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        I see your point, but think that this is a pointless discussion…

        Everybody should know that only because you wear some Air Jordans, won't you make to play like Mike, but it does not mean that you can not wear them, if you feel to do so. And thats the same with virtual everything else.... wear the stuff you like and give a feck on what others think about that...........

        rocketrocksrox 🤙🏼🤙🏾

        It's all humbug, like everywhere
        R.I.P. Geo

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        • GilesG
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          Well, I lifted it from the Eastman Leathers site.

          But it matters not.

          I see a lot of people wearing stuff that I think is inappropriate or shit or just plain wrong.  But all that matters really, is that they as individuals feel good within themselves and feel comfortable in their peer group.

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          • injunjackI
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            @Giles:

            Well, I lifted it from the Eastman Leathers site.

            But it matters not.

            I see a lot of people wearing stuff that I think is inappropriate or shit or just plain wrong.  But all that matters really, is that they as individuals feel good within themselves and feel comfortable in their peer group.

            yeah, you're right. I shouldn't be thinking too much. Gotta find something to do…:-)

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            • Finn666F
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              @Giles:

              Why …

              The simple point is that there is a point in history where stuff derived from, **we steal the look because we like it/it suits us/or whatever.  Quite frankly it matters not a feck.**No group of people "own" a look, despite what they may think.

              @rocket:

              **I see your point, but think that this is a pointless discussion…**Everybody should know that only because you wear some Air Jordans, won't you make to play like Mike, but it does not mean that you can not wear them, if you feel to do so. And thats the same with virtual everything else…. wear the stuff you like and give a feck on what others think about that...........

              QFT…

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              • madmondayM
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                @injunjack:

                I have wondered this quite some time?

                Why do people buy motorcycle clothes, especially jackets when they don't actually ride??
                'cos they look good isn't the answer I'm looking for.

                Posers?? wanna-be bad boys? The image the black leather gives to others…(well, that is the bad boy thingy, I guess)

                Please explain so that this simple soul understands?

                injun you do crack me up & you better stop starting trouble.  i do admire that you have your own opinion regardless of if i think it is a bit ________ you can fill in the blank.

                in any event .  .  . when do the new hoodies land?  they are looking really good in both the printed & non printed versions  😠

                head high, middle finger higher

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                • GilesG
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                  I have not had time to order any, so feck knows…...

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • madmondayM
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                    what?  probably for the greater good. . . NOT

                    please put up some pictures if you have a chane to see what the iron heart uk collective thinks.

                    head high, middle finger higher

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                    • GilesG
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                      I'll try and get a few in, but they will be super limited….

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • madmondayM
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                        most good things are  😠

                        head high, middle finger higher

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                        • GilesG
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                          There is possibly (probably, in case she reads this) one thing I have learned from my wife.  There is no point in stopping flogging a dead horse.

                          After WW2, the Japanese youth loved the badass way that the US GI's strutted their stuff in Japan.  And by that, I mean what they rode, what they drove and what they wore.

                          They decided to "borrow" that look.  If they had not, we would not have a Japanese jeans industry now.

                          Full stop.

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          • madmondayM
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                            FULL STOP.

                            😞

                            head high, middle finger higher

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                            • BlackheartB
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                              Agreed G, and all the most collectable jeans/leather jackets/boots and military uniforms can be found there.

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                              • crisoneC
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                                @madmonday:

                                in any event .  .  . when do the new hoodies land?  they are looking really good in both the printed & non printed versions  😠

                                Hmmm, new hoodies???  Link monday???

                                Cris.

                                RIP GEO

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                                • FurattoHeddoF
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                                  http://ironheart.jp/products/IHSW-02.html and http://ironheart.jp/products/IHSW-03.html

                                  Like the navy ones 🙂

                                  "Don't ever be sorry"

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                                  • crisoneC
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                                    ^ Thanks…..I want the Grey in both.

                                    Cris.

                                    RIP GEO

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                                    • derivative666D
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                                      I love the dark grey

                                      "honorable mention to the bearded giant aka derivative666 for being a stand up dude & not changing with the seasons since i've been around these parts" Monday

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                                      • hecticH
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                                        @injunjack:

                                        I have wondered this quite some time?

                                        Why do people buy motorcycle clothes, especially jackets when they don't actually ride??
                                        'cos they look good isn't the answer I'm looking for.

                                        Posers?? wanna-be bad boys? The image the black leather gives to others…(well, that is the bad boy thingy, I guess)

                                        Please explain so that this simple soul understands?

                                        Injun - are you just trolling for the sake of it?

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                                        • derivative666D
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                                          Zombie Fest Asbury Park, NJ this weekend. Anybody going?

                                          "honorable mention to the bearded giant aka derivative666 for being a stand up dude & not changing with the seasons since i've been around these parts" Monday

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                                          • injunjackI
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                                            Beating up a dead horse…

                                            Hectic, that was at least 3/4 serious question that popped to my mind a while ago.

                                            and I wrote there "'cos they look good isn't the answer I'm looking for"

                                            Should have written that I can accept that reasoning. I was assuming there might be some other reasoning also, but at least nobody admitted that.  😉

                                            Me thinks this got wrong turn from the beginning.

                                            FULL STOP from here also.

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