Random questions to which you seek an answer
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Most of the fabrics will be effectively the same, there may be some tweaks as we try to improve, and there may be subtle variances as raw materials become unavailable and we have to source alternatives.
Regarding cut and constructional detail, Haraki is always tweaking/trying to improve, but typically a change will result in the lot number changing.
Whether those tweaks are good or bad is really in the eye of the beholder, because Haraki rarely considers what other people will like, just what he thinks is best for him personally.
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@Giles Perfect, thank you.
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@flannel-slut my 21oz OD were hemmed with the golden yellow thread by IH.
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@flannel-slut said in Random questions to which you seek an answer:
@JoshC or for those of you that have hemmed your OD, do you chainstitch with a black or yellow thread?
We default to yellow as that is the colour of the original constructional stitching. But you can request any colour you want.
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I’m looking for a straight leg with a very slight taper which the 634s looks like it has but I’m not sure if it would actually fit my body (175cm and 77kg) well. For reference, here are my Sassafras Fall Leaf denim. They are (relatively speaking) my best fitting pair of denim. Below are their measurements
Waist: 95.6cm/ 37.64in
Front rise: 31cm/ 12.2in
Back rise: 41cm /16.14in
Thigh: 33.5cm / 13.9in
Knee: 26.67cm/ 10.5in
Inseam: 73.5cm / 28.94in
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Probably best to message the team directly at shop@ironheart.co.uk for specific enquiries such as this.
They'll be able to recommend the perfect cut/size for you using the measurement you've provided.
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I can only give you my personal opinion, but I’d say this cut works well on a wide variety of body types.
I’m what some would call tall and skinny (I prefer to say thin lol). Not much of a butt, but fairly average sized waist and thighs. I know that doesn’t speak directly to your specifics, but just giving you a body type to compare to …
The 634 is my favorite cut.
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@LibagBall0105 Have you checked out this page? https://www.ironheart.co.uk/content/cut-comparison
@T4920 gave you the best advice though; email the team. The customer service here is second to none and they'd be happy to help you find the best cut for you.
You mentioned that for Sassafras jeans are your "relatively speaking best fitting pair". When you email the IH team with your measurements, I recommend that you point out anything that you like/dislike about that pair of jeans (e.g. "the thighs are a little tight" or "I'm looking for something with a bit more room in the butt" or "I'd like less of a taper" or whatever) so that they can advise on how that pair will compare to the IH cuts.
Take the dive...
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P.S. @goosehd - you'll probably want to move this thread/discussion somewhere more appropriate?
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@EdH said in Would the Iron Heart 634s work well for my body type?:
You mentioned that for Sassafras jeans are your "relatively speaking best fitting pair". When you email the IH team with your measurements, I recommend that you point out anything that you like/dislike about that pair of jeans (e.g. "the thighs are a little tight" or "I'm looking for something with a bit more room in the butt" or "I'd like less of a taper" or whatever) so that they can advise on how that pair will compare to the IH cuts.
I should try this next time.
I've never actually reached out for specific sizing advice, just kinda winged it, but should really take advantage of their expertise...
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Followed @T4920’s advice and emailed the team directly and said it would be great for me! Gonna do some further contemplation before I pull the trigger but thanks for your help guys!
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@LibagBall0105 if you do make the purchase, don't forget to check in with some photos on the product thread!
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Why are the sleeves on the IH Horsehide Type III truckers so long vs the Rider's?
I've had a terrible track record over the past 20 years ordering leather jackets online (the local selection is awful) either new or used. I've probably gone through 10 jackets and only one (a custom Schott 42 Long that I waited 6 months for) fit. Everything else was either too short in the sleeves (size large) or too large in the body (XL) and even then the sleeves could be short. The majority of new Schott jackets can't be custom ordered in long sizes so I didn't have many options. I'm 6'1, 185 lbs and take a 35/36 inch sleeve in dress shirts.
A few days ago, I popped into a local clothing store a few blocks away (Brooklyn Clothiers) and saw the Iron Heart black Horsehide leather trucker jacket. It was a size 42 which was described as an XL. I immediately assumed it would be too big in the body and too short in the sleeves. To my delight, the sleeves were perfect and the XL body fit like a Schott Large. I bought the jacket and started looking for other Iron Heart jackets that might work for me.
The horsehide riders jacket with a collar is really something I would like. However, when looking up the specs online, the XL size has a 26.8 sleeve vs the Type III with a 28 inch sleeve. I suspect this 1.2 inches in different could make them too short for me.
Any reason why the Type III seems to have a longer sleeve length vs the rest of the leather jackets?
I did notice that a store in Canada (The Shop in Vancouver) has a brown split steerhide Type III in an XL in stock and that one has a 27.9 sleeve. I'm quite tempted to order that one but I'm not sure how that type of leather with the suede will wear over time.
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@jdixon1974 to answer your initial question, different iterations of jackets have different dims. Just the way it is. Examine the shoulder measurements and you may find an answer there. Where the sleeve hem ends up on your wrist is also dependent on where the shoulder starts.
However, where are you getting your dims from?in order to have a reliable benchmark you should always get measurements from the IH website, and compare them to the measurements of the jacket you own. You may find them closer than you think.
As for the split steer type III, I own it and it ages beautifully. Just gets softer and softer. Doesn’t get the same patina as a regular steerhide/horsehide jacket, but does end up buttery soft and pliable.
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Thanks for the reply. I just looked at the measurements again. The shoulders on the rider (with the shorter sleeves) is 1 inch longer (20.5) than the trucker (19.5) with the longer sleeves.
Would that suggest the overall sleeve length would be the same?
Having said that, the brown steerhide trucker is looking like it should fit. I would like a brown jacket and if it's durable as you suggest then it might be the way for me to go.
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@jdixon1974 I tried on both the Horsehide and Split Steer in Hamburg in XL (one size up from my usual L) and the fit/sleeve length seemed similar on both of them.
Yet to try the Split Steer in my actually size, but the measurements on the IH webstore are almost identical to the Horsehide I picked up recently, so I'd be comfortable buying without trying it on in person first when the time does come to make the purchase.
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The last thing I would doubt when it comes to Iron Heart is durability.
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@T4920 Thank you. The measurements are almost identical between the two so it's probably a safe bet to take. The challenge is, not many retailers or items available so I don't know if I should buy this one now to snag the size. If it sells, it doesn't look like anyone else has one in this size, especially in my country.
