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    sabergirl
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    Joined: 4 Oct 2013

    As far as I know, 633 is just a tapered 634. The rise and thigh measurements certainly bear the most resemblance between those two.

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      neph93
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      Joined: 18 Aug 2014

      I think that @sabergirl is correct that the for the 633 SE asked Haraki-san to put a stronger taper in the 634. So from above the knee and up they are the same.

      When @Giles and @Megatron1505 dreamt up the 888 they also started with the 634 in mind. The major difference between the 633 and 888, apart from the rise, is that the taper in the 888 starts at the top of thigh rather than just above the knee.

      So it depends what area you’re interested in. The closest cut when it comes to top block and thigh is the 634. When it comes to leg silhouette and taper it is the 888.

      “Some of those that work forces
      Are the same that burn crosses”

      • Virginia Woolf
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        Crashed
        Joined: 4 Jul 2020

        Hello i'm new to the forum so still trying to work out how to navigate things and i have no idea how to start a new topic ?
        so having bought tried and very sadly sold Wesco custom harness boots despite being VERY impressed with the quality i have been searching in vain ever since for …... well ....... them very same boots but rather how they look in pictures rather than how they look on my feet .

        I'm in the UK so "quality" means i have to buy from America just to try them on .

        Its taken me a while to work out what went wrong for me regarding the Wesco and it became clear when i decided to tear the heel off my Grinders boots replacing it with a home made wooden block so i could add a heavy lug vibram sole (cheap copy wesco's) .

        Seem's to me the vibram sole used by Wesco and White's Freedom boots (my second choice) dictates a wide square toe and what i seek without success is a narrow square toe . A tough hard wearing all day every day whether mudplugging , going to a wedding , bikers cowboy/engineer boot .

        Pics will explain it better when and if i can work out how to do it on the mrs ipad .

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          Crashed
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            Crashed
            Joined: 4 Jul 2020

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              motojobobo
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              Joined: 22 Aug 2015

              Thanks for your replies @sabergirl and @neph93 . I want to keep the same rise as the 634, same thigh as the 634 and some taper from the knee down. That lands me squarely in 633 territory. You two confirmed my suspicion that I’m held hostage by Self Edge. I’ll just root for SE to expand its IH jean options.

              How about the same question on the chino front? Which chino cut do you find most akin to the 633?  Have you tried any IH chinos?

              The journey is the objective.

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                sabergirl
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                Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                I did have a 717 for a while, and they were a different animal altogether, though I liked the fit. I love my duck 816, and wish that there were a tapered version in denim—would become an instant favorite. 816 has a lower front rise, paired with a higher back, which is what I like about the fit.

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                  neph93
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                  Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                  @Crashed I’m not sure what you’re after, but I’m sure Wesco’s custom build tool will give you the opportunity to find out. Combining the harness toe with a vibrant 700/705 sole maybe the answer. Alternatively a motor patrol toe may tickle your fancy.

                  https://builder.wescoboots.com/CustomBoots.aspx

                  “Some of those that work forces
                  Are the same that burn crosses”

                  • Virginia Woolf
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                    Jett129
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                    Joined: 17 Aug 2011

                    @Crashed This is my Wesco Boss Engineer Harness boot. Have them over 20 years of riding/you name it. Been rebuilt by Wesco once. Except for the toe,I think it checks most of the boxes you’re looking for.

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                      Crashed
                      Joined: 4 Jul 2020

                      Thanks for your replies , where i struggle is for 30 years i've worn only traditional cowboy boots but somewhere along the line they were deemed female fashion boots and so while a single pair of boots worn daily once lasted me circa 7 years nowadays they last as many weeks . Not good when i have two 6" screws in my foot from a bike accident .

                      I have only one pair of feet hence i only need one pair of long lasting shoes which is what led me to Wesco the quality of which is outstanding .

                      I have used their custom builder and searched many hours online for any pair of boots they make with the toe i try to describe without success .

                      In that pic they look an ideal combination of western style engineers boots but on my feet while wearing bootcut jeans i look down and think i could be wearing budget safety boots from my local builders merchant and nobody would notice the difference .

                      For reasons i will never know it seems a narrow square toe tapers down like its been squashed and the wide square toe must be at least 2 inches wide ?

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                        Giles
                        IHUK Crew
                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                        Wesco do not do the toe you are after I am afraid…

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          neph93
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                          Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                          @Crashed I think I know what you mean now, something like this?:

                          https://www.fc-moto.de/epages/fcm.sf/?ObjectPath=/Shops/10207048/Products/Kochmann-Colorado-Boot/SubProducts/Kochmann-Colorado-Boot-0018&Currency=NOK&Locale=no_NO&utm_source=Kelkoo.no&utm_medium=productlistings&utm_campaign=Kelkoo_NO&utm_term=Kochmann+Colorado+Motorsykkel+Støvler+Br&iccm=KEL_NO

                          In which case you’re right, Wesco don’t do something that stylised. I’m not up on cowboy boots but I understand Luchesse to be a respected brand in that ouvre. They do custom builds I believe.

                          “Some of those that work forces
                          Are the same that burn crosses”

                          • Virginia Woolf
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                            Crashed
                            Joined: 4 Jul 2020

                            You got it Neph but with wesco tough leather and lug sole

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                              neph93
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                              Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                              The closest Wesco do you a cowboy boot is their western toe. Not squared at the toe, but quite narrow and with “roper” style uppers. You can get them done with any vibrant sole your like and double mids, and even add harness straps

                              At the end of the day, Wesco have a focus on practical work boots historically. That is their background. Have a look at Luchesse. Their custom builder gives you the option of a western style boot with their “nr.7” toe, which resembles what you’re after. I doubt they put a lugged vibrant #100 on their boots but that could be customised aftermarket.

                              https://www.lucchese.com/boot-builder/#/builder

                              “Some of those that work forces
                              Are the same that burn crosses”

                              • Virginia Woolf
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                                Crashed
                                Joined: 4 Jul 2020

                                Yeah i'm flogging a dead horse and i may as well continue buying a pair of these every year https://www.bikersparadise.co.uk/Renegade-Hi-Waxy-Cowhide-Bike-Boots.html

                                But thanks for taking the time to reply . So near yet so far is what frustrates me , The Wesco is 5 times more expensive but worth it if they had the style i want  😢

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                                  Crashed
                                  Joined: 4 Jul 2020

                                  3. Square toes, which come in a variety of squareness, from subtle box toes to the broad square toes, have gained popularity over the past fifteen years. The “John Wayne” toe is a narrow square, also called a box toe, a punchy toe, or some other name depending on the company. The wide, square toe is the preferred choice for frat brothers, West Texas landmen, and rodeo cowboys.

                                  John Wayne huh …...... i must be getting old  😃

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                                    MastersOfDeath
                                    Iron Heart Deity
                                    Joined: 11 May 2011

                                    What do people prefer in "Buying & Selling" ?

                                    • a single item per post

                                    • a collection of items per post

                                    each has its merits, interested to see preferences.
                                    would a poll be a good idea?

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                                      neph93
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                                      Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                      Personally both as a seller and buyer I prefer multiple items per post as long as it isn’t too many.

                                      “Some of those that work forces
                                      Are the same that burn crosses”

                                      • Virginia Woolf
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                                        Jett129
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                                        Joined: 17 Aug 2011

                                        I have no preference as a buyer,but as a seller I only list one at a time. So far that’s worked out for me.

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                                          Kasi
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                                          Joined: 9 Oct 2014

                                          I have list single and multi works out both ways for me…

                                          The choice is your

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                                          The world's insane
                                          While you drink champagne
                                          And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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