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    DrPat
    Iron Heart Deity
    Joined: 9 Oct 2009

    It looks like a crease from washing.  It’s happened to me before even when machine washing on the gentle cycle and no spin.  It should become less noticeable with wear.

    How did you wash them?

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      Giles
      IHUK Crew
      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

      It looks like an "imperfection" in the denim.  The loom probably had some sort of hiccup.  With the old shuttle looms that sort of thing happens e.g. a warp breaks, the loom has to be stopped to mend the warp and when restarted the loom takes a little time to get up to full speed.  I can't tell how bad it is from the photo, it may have been missed at QC or it was felt that it was OK to pass.  Does it bother you?

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        Palmer
        Iron Heart Deity
        Joined: 4 Jan 2019

        Coincidentally I just saw that someone posted a pair of Rogue Territory jeans on Reddit with a similar but more severe defect.

        If it's going to look like this down the road it will definitely bug me. From your experience if you think it will look more or less normal down the road I can live with it. It's interesting that it took about a month of wear for me to notice it, because to be honest I like to look at my jeans every day and observe how they evolve.

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          Giles
          IHUK Crew
          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

          I do not think they will look like the RGT's, that is def something we would have kicked out in QC.  Can you feel any difference in the fabric if you brush over it with you fingers?

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            Palmer
            Iron Heart Deity
            Joined: 4 Jan 2019

            Yes. More so on the weft side but on it can be felt on the deepest part of the line on the warp side.

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              Giles
              IHUK Crew
              Joined: 22 Sept 2009

              You'll likely get some sort of uneven fade there with time if the face of the fabric is higher or lower in that place that on the rest of the denim…

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                Palmer
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                Joined: 4 Jan 2019

                That's what I figured. Guess I'll find out soon enough.

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                  kkibbey23
                  Haraki san Prodigy
                  Joined: 16 Oct 2013

                  I can’t remember…. so I’ll ask here 😃

                  Is the 25oz IB coming in other cuts? 777....I think I remember seeing that.

                  Planning my fall

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                    Giles
                    IHUK Crew
                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                    Yes, all the key cuts…555, 634, 666, 777 & 888

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      kkibbey23
                      Haraki san Prodigy
                      Joined: 16 Oct 2013

                      Thanks G

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                        Giles
                        IHUK Crew
                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                        Same for the regular XHS too…..

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          motojobobo
                          啓蒙家
                          Joined: 22 Aug 2015

                          I feel I ought to know the answer to my own question but I don’t even after 3 and a half years after buying my first IH pair of jeans. So, for the forum members more observant and smarter than I…

                          Which IH cut is most similar to the Self Edge 633 cut?

                          The slight differences in how IHUK and SE measure jeans adds to my confusion as even a slight 0.2 inch difference in thigh width means a whole lot in the comfort department. At this point I’m thinking that the three “closest” cuts to the 633 are 666, 777 and 888. With the main differences between them being: 666 is narrower at the thigh; 777 is more strongly tapered from the thigh all the way down to the hem; and 888 having a higher rise. I’m only drawing these conclusion based on owning one pair of 666 and one pair of 888…and also a single pair of 633. So not based on much, really.

                          As I’ve noted before, so far my most comfortable cut is the 633 but I want to get the most similar IH proprietary cut firmly figured out. Nailing this will give me quite a few more fabric options, especially urgent in light of the recently announced incoming ones. Therefore, telling me to stick to the 633 won’t be enough guys.

                          The journey is the objective.

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                            sabergirl
                            見習いボス
                            Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                            As far as I know, 633 is just a tapered 634. The rise and thigh measurements certainly bear the most resemblance between those two.

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                              neph93
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                              Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                              I think that @sabergirl is correct that the for the 633 SE asked Haraki-san to put a stronger taper in the 634. So from above the knee and up they are the same.

                              When @Giles and @Megatron1505 dreamt up the 888 they also started with the 634 in mind. The major difference between the 633 and 888, apart from the rise, is that the taper in the 888 starts at the top of thigh rather than just above the knee.

                              So it depends what area you’re interested in. The closest cut when it comes to top block and thigh is the 634. When it comes to leg silhouette and taper it is the 888.

                              «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                              We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                Crashed
                                Joined: 4 Jul 2020

                                Hello i'm new to the forum so still trying to work out how to navigate things and i have no idea how to start a new topic ?
                                so having bought tried and very sadly sold Wesco custom harness boots despite being VERY impressed with the quality i have been searching in vain ever since for …... well ....... them very same boots but rather how they look in pictures rather than how they look on my feet .

                                I'm in the UK so "quality" means i have to buy from America just to try them on .

                                Its taken me a while to work out what went wrong for me regarding the Wesco and it became clear when i decided to tear the heel off my Grinders boots replacing it with a home made wooden block so i could add a heavy lug vibram sole (cheap copy wesco's) .

                                Seem's to me the vibram sole used by Wesco and White's Freedom boots (my second choice) dictates a wide square toe and what i seek without success is a narrow square toe . A tough hard wearing all day every day whether mudplugging , going to a wedding , bikers cowboy/engineer boot .

                                Pics will explain it better when and if i can work out how to do it on the mrs ipad .

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                                  Crashed
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                                    Crashed
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                                      motojobobo
                                      啓蒙家
                                      Joined: 22 Aug 2015

                                      Thanks for your replies @sabergirl and @neph93 . I want to keep the same rise as the 634, same thigh as the 634 and some taper from the knee down. That lands me squarely in 633 territory. You two confirmed my suspicion that I’m held hostage by Self Edge. I’ll just root for SE to expand its IH jean options.

                                      How about the same question on the chino front? Which chino cut do you find most akin to the 633?  Have you tried any IH chinos?

                                      The journey is the objective.

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                                        sabergirl
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                                        Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                                        I did have a 717 for a while, and they were a different animal altogether, though I liked the fit. I love my duck 816, and wish that there were a tapered version in denim—would become an instant favorite. 816 has a lower front rise, paired with a higher back, which is what I like about the fit.

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                                          neph93
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                                          Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                          @Crashed I’m not sure what you’re after, but I’m sure Wesco’s custom build tool will give you the opportunity to find out. Combining the harness toe with a vibrant 700/705 sole maybe the answer. Alternatively a motor patrol toe may tickle your fancy.

                                          https://builder.wescoboots.com/CustomBoots.aspx

                                          «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                          We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

                                          • Dame Vera Lynn
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