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    Stuart.T
    Raw and Unwashed
    Joined: 21 Sept 2017

    @jake77:

    Thanks gents. Interesting point of views about what "raw denim" means and what its real value is. I guess as a marketing term, it's at least an indication that the products using so-called raw denim are qualitatively different from non-raw denim. What that means… Well that's the opportunity to make a statement. And to creatively differentiate. Selvedge does offer an "almost vintage" quality -- and the colorful selvedge stitching is distinctive. The craft of making these denims also seem a vast improvement over the much less expensive alternatives.

    Sizing -- interesting to know it's about the thread -- and not applied post weaving. The materials used in the sizing may only be of interest to a data driven individual, but I find it useful and not simply trivia. Starch traditionally was the byproduct of washing the starch from wheat, and vital wheat gluten (a mainly wheat gluten based flour) was a popular product out of Australia -- used for meat-like high protein meat substitutes. For those without gluten sensitivites.

    Any information about formaldehyde on the denim used? Doesn't smell like there's much formaldehyde. Does no one really care?

    I think you make some really valid, interesting points/questions. Realistically, I don't think that any, even eco denim, are environmentally friendly. I watched a BBC documentary on cotton denim production last year that focused on mass production a 'high end' denim - neither faired favourably). Cotton production itself is incredibly damaging to the environment (see any number of scientific reports). The water consumption required to grow cotton has a huge impact locally.

    I have seen natural indigo hemp denim before. It is very lightweight and didn't have the rigidity of most other denims I've handled, but environmentally it is more sound if growing and production is downscaled (pushing costs up).

    The use of non-natural indigo and formaldehyde does concern me, these are chemicals you want leeching into the water table.

    My mum and dad did a river cruise in China about 15 years ago, they showed me photos of the Yangtze River, at certain points close to denim processing plants the water was purple, and then red. I'm sure these plants produced denim for the mass market retailers.

    My understanding from info on IH UK is that the brand seeks to be as environmentally responsible as possible. Some countries/brands place more/less emphasis on the importance of environmentalism, and I imagine that balance is challenging when brands are multinational (as opposed to 'multinationals').

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      Yogi217
      Joined: 21 Oct 2018

      Thank you in advance…

      So I have my first IH Chino product. I love that it has a slight rigidity to it like denim.

      I am wondering....

      If this fabric will shrink like denim if washed with hot water and a spin cycle?

      Do you need to soak this like denim? Hot or cold? How long?

      Does it have starch in it like denim (I am assuming so since it is stiff)?

      Will soaking or washing (minimal soaking or washing) remove the rigidity/starch?

      And finally, do you know where i can find a rich uncle to adopt me so i can replace my whole wardrobe with IH gear? Honestly, every time I buy something, my expectations are far exceeded, but it takes me like 6 months to save up for one item 😕

      Sent from my SM-N975U1 using Tapatalk

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        Giles
        IHUK Crew
        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

        I assume you are referring to the IHJ-84-BLK.  It is one-washed so minimal, if any, shrinkage.  We should have added that bullet to the product description, sorry.  It is being fixed now.

        No need to soak.

        Most woven cottons  (and indeed other fabrics too)have the warp "sized" before weaving:

        https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=11987.msg575128#msg575128

        Some of it will have been washed out already, but some will remain for a while.

        Not sure about where to find a rich uncle…

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          Yogi217
          Joined: 21 Oct 2018

          Thanks Giles.

          Do you need a nephew? Maybe I don't need a rich uncle, just one who has a good connection to IH gear?

          I call every Holiday and never miss a birthday; and I'll leave you alone pretty much the rest of the time

          Sent from my SM-N975U1 using Tapatalk

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            Cutlasshound
            見習いボス
            Joined: 28 Oct 2013

            [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

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            I ain't got time to bleed.

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              joesaintjohn
              啓蒙家
              Joined: 9 Aug 2012

              I should probably know this by now, but any tips on keeping your cuff creases from blowing out? I cuff all my jeans, and after about a year of wear the fabric breaks down and gets a hole at the crease. [emoji848]

              I don’t hate it, but was wondering if there is a technique to slow or stop that process?

              Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

              Fat dudes need good clothes too.

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                Jett129
                見習いボス
                Joined: 17 Aug 2011

                Maybe if you occasionally varied the size of the cuff,you wouldn’t always be getting friction in the same spot.

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                  gaseousclay
                  Joined: 4 Nov 2016

                  @joesaintjohn:

                  I should probably know this by now, but any tips on keeping your cuff creases from blowing out? I cuff all my jeans, and after about a year of wear the fabric breaks down and gets a hole at the crease. [emoji848]

                  I don’t hate it, but was wondering if there is a technique to slow or stop that process?

                  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                  Dirt, grime and debris accumulates in the cuffs and will cause the fabric to break down as a result. At one point I used to uncuff my jeans and use a lint brush to wipe away any debris. That became a pain, and somewhat ineffective, so I stopped cuffing altogether and haven’t looked back.

                  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                  WTB:
                  IHSH-129 size L (blue)
                  IHSH-19

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                    neph93
                    見習いボス
                    Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                    Varying the cuff point, uncuffing at the end of the day, and regularly cleaning the crap out of the cuff will all slow the process, like the guys say. But as gaseous states, the only way to stop it is not to cuff.

                    «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                    We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

                    • Dame Vera Lynn
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                      Graham
                      IHUK Crew
                      Joined: 8 May 2014

                      @joesaintjohn:

                      I should probably know this by now, but any tips on keeping your cuff creases from blowing out? I cuff all my jeans, and after about a year of wear the fabric breaks down and gets a hole at the crease. [emoji848]

                      I don’t hate it, but was wondering if there is a technique to slow or stop that process?

                      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                      It will always be our pleasure as well, to repair (darn) these for free for you as long as you cover the postage costs to and from us, better yet, we can ship them back for free with an order.

                      https://www.ironheart.co.uk/content/wear-and-repair

                      However, we are currently not accepting any repairs but we can get your name on the waiting list to give you the green light as soon as the workshop is back open after lockdown.

                      @gmac_ironheart
                      🤘

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                        joesaintjohn
                        啓蒙家
                        Joined: 9 Aug 2012

                        That’s awesome! Thank you for all the advice and I may send some pairs when it opens up! I have a couple that need some love!

                        Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                        Fat dudes need good clothes too.

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                          Evanblauw
                          Joined: 16 Feb 2017

                          Any forum members snag one of the Sonder Supplies beanies? I’m always on the lookout for another black beanie and was curious if there were any hands on thoughts?

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                            gaseousclay
                            Joined: 4 Nov 2016

                            I'm thinking of getting a new phone plan with Sprint and i'm likely going to have to get rid of my iphone 7 and buy a new cell. Since I don't keep up with the many iphone iterations, can any of you tell me what's up with the iphone SE and how it's better or worse than the other iphones out there? I'm sure there are bells and whistles on the SE that are a step up from my iphone 7 and it's only $400. I have no desire to spend $400 on a phone but if it means I don't have to pay a monthly lease then so be it.

                            WTB:
                            IHSH-129 size L (blue)
                            IHSH-19

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                              BloodnThunder
                              Raw and Unwashed
                              Joined: 20 May 2015

                              If you aren't much of a phone guy about the only things you'll probably notice are; slightly different size, better camera, nicer screen, maybe a bit smoother running.

                              I am similar to you.  Don't really care about having the fanciest phone so all the little new 'special' features that come out with each new phone are mostly lost on me.

                              IG: Shadesofindig0

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                                Alex_24
                                Haraki san Expert
                                Joined: 31 May 2019

                                @Giles:

                                The low-tops are on hold.

                                Coming back to the sneakers, does this mean the high-tops are still on the way? If so, what’s the ETA? And will there be US 13 in the mix?

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                                  Giles
                                  IHUK Crew
                                  Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                  I don't know about the high-tops, H has not mentioned them recently…..

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    bryaneidins70
                                    Iron Heart Deity
                                    Joined: 24 Feb 2017

                                    Wheres 'Rocket' these days, I hope he's well?

                                    Really enjoyed his WAYWT pics.

                                    'Fail we may…Sail we must'

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                                      neph93
                                      見習いボス
                                      Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                      @bryaneidins70:

                                      Wheres 'Rocket' these days, I hope he's well?

                                      Yes, we miss @rocket. @Giles was in touch with him in March as Covid was taking off in Europe. He’s alive and kicking and dealing with stuff. He has to prioritise other things than the forum at the moment, as we all do from time to time.

                                      «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                      We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                        bryaneidins70
                                        Iron Heart Deity
                                        Joined: 24 Feb 2017

                                        Thats good to hear.

                                        'Fail we may…Sail we must'

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                                          rocket
                                          Joined: 6 Jan 2011

                                          some sweets for ya @bryaneidins70

                                          I am doing good, just needed whatever….

                                          rocketrocksrox 🤙🏼🤙🏾

                                          It's all humbug, like everywhere
                                          R.I.P. Geo

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