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    • GilesG
      Giles
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      What we do on this forum with regards to Sonder Supplies is still something that P, A and I are still undecided about.  In the short term following

      https://www.instagram.com/sondersupplies/

      Will be where you are likely to get most info…..

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      • rocketR
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        rocketrocksrox 🤙🏼🤙🏾

        It's all humbug, like everywhere
        R.I.P. Geo

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        • PalmerP
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          @Kacakembun I tried on one of the Railcar chore coats last weekend in Los Angeles. I would describe the sizing as American true to size. For reference I wear a 3XL in Iron Heart shirts and jackets and the Railcar XL fit me well. Hope this helps.

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          • KacakembunK
            Kacakembun
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            @Palmer i’m stuck between Medium or Large size on chore coat..should i keep Medium or go for one size  bigger?

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            • PalmerP
              Palmer
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              @Kacakembun if you wear a medium in Iron Heart I’m sure you’ll fit in a medium Railcar. If you’re unsure send them an email. Their customer service is great.

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              • KacakembunK
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                @Palmer:

                @Kacakembun if you wear a medium in Iron Heart I’m sure you’ll fit in a medium Railcar. If you’re unsure send them an email. Their customer service is great.

                Thank you.

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                  Anyone know if IH has ever done a 14oz black denim jacket? Not including the Ovsrdyed denim they produce. Either black fade to grey or super blacks or some other iteration (aside for OD)?

                  Thanks!

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                  • neph93N
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                    @Yogi217:

                    Anyone know if IH has ever done a 14oz black denim jacket? Not including the Ovsrdyed denim they produce. Either black fade to grey or super blacks or some other iteration (aside for OD)?

                    Thanks!

                    I’m pretty sure the answer is no. There hasn’t been a superblack or SBG iteration of either of the versions of the 14oz denim to date.

                    A post from @Giles recently on the samples thread, suggests that may change however…

                    “Some of those that work forces
                    Are the same that burn crosses”

                    • Virginia Woolf
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                    • GilesG
                      Giles
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                      Sampling a 14oz black Type III and Type II at the moment.  We are giving a retailer a few months lead on them when we release

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        If the measurements of those are similar to the measurements of the 9526pj or 72, I'm in!

                        Something around 21.5 or 22 p2p, 18 shoulder, 24.5 length…

                        If it were only that easy...

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                          I know it’s all a matter of personal preference and how you intend to wear the item, but generally speaking, for a trucker jacket (type 1, 2, 3), how much of an increase do you go up in chest measurements?

                          For example, my tailor measured my chest as 41”, what would be a good p2p size for me if I intended to wear the jacket well fitted over a t shirt?

                          21?
                          21.5?
                          22?

                          What would be your advice or personal preference?

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                          • gaseousclayG
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                            @Yogi217:

                            I know it’s all a matter of personal preference and how you intend to wear the item, but generally speaking, for a trucker jacket (type 1, 2, 3), how much of an increase do you go up in chest measurements?

                            For example, my tailor measured my chest as 41”, what would be a good p2p size for me if I intended to wear the jacket well fitted over a t shirt?

                            21?
                            21.5?
                            22?

                            What would be your advice or personal preference?

                            Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

                            Measure your best fitting jacket and you’ll have your answer.

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                            WTB:
                            IHSH-129 size L (blue)
                            IHSH-19

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                              Thanks. Problem is it varies by designer and cut in my experience (arm hole height, etc).

                              I'm curious to hear what others use for a general rule?

                              I saw you posted in waywt, what is the p2p on that jacket and what's your chest measurement?

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                              • gaseousclayG
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                                @Yogi217:

                                I saw you posted in waywt, what is the p2p on that jacket and what's your chest measurement?

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                                The p2p on my jacket is about 22” and my chest is around 39-40”. I typically only wear tops in the 22” to 22.5” range.

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                                WTB:
                                IHSH-129 size L (blue)
                                IHSH-19

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                                  Thank you!

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                                  • neph93N
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                                    @Yogi217:

                                    Problem is it varies by designer and cut in my experience (arm hole height, etc).

                                    I’m not sure that knowing your chest measurement and using it as a bench mark will really solve that issue if there is a meaningful difference in armhole height that affects where the jacket sits.

                                    Your chest measurement is a fixed line measurement on your body whereas the line of the ptp is decided by the same the same variable you find problematic, namely the height of the confluence of the armpit seams. So your body stays the same but the ptp is going to move over or under that line depending on cut.

                                    What you’re struggling with is the differences in cut and design and the issue extends to shoulders, body length and a the horizontal tapering throughout the body. At some point then trying things on is the only true way of seeing if you like the fit of something.

                                    “Some of those that work forces
                                    Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                      Thanks neph.

                                      That's the struggle with buying over the internet. It's a challenge to try on and a pita to return, etc. Not the end of the world to return things, just annoying, so getting it right from the get go helps. I think essentially I'm always debating between only two sizes: smaller and a larger one. Just curious to see which way other people here lean towards, the tighter or looser option.

                                      What size do you generally shop in tops and what how much greater is the p2p than you chest measurement?

                                      I've read some people say that you go 1" greater than your measurements, some say at least 2 or 3… Just trying to get a sense of how more experienced shopper choose.

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                                      • GilesG
                                        Giles
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                                        If you go here:

                                        https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=12686.msg599519#msg599519

                                        You will see how to access the sizing information of all the website "models"

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                          Thank you! I hadn't discovered that feature yet.

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                                          • neph93N
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                                            @Yogi217:

                                            What size do you generally shop in tops and what how much greater is the p2p than you chest measurement?

                                            I've no idea what my actual chest measurement is 😃

                                            I'm generally an XL in shirts, an L in hoodies and I have jackets from IH ranging from L to XXL.

                                            IHUK do a wonderful job of giving us all kinds of useful information, including access to this forum and the knowledge that represents, and people still get it wrong. That might be because people interpret the data badly, overthink things (guilty as charged) or just don't do the research.

                                            But sometimes it is because a Type III made by Levi's and bought on the high street and a Type III made by IH are cut and sewn differently, made of different materials etc, etc, and will fit differently as a result. They can have the same measurements as each other and still be different.

                                            I think the key word you use here is "experience".  You'd imagine that the simplest of garments, a tee shirt, would be easy to size. When I ordered my first IH tee's  about five years ago I measured three or four of my favourite tees worked out an aggregate and went from there. The IH tee's I ordered based on that were too big. In fact I ended up sizing down from XL to M. It was because of the way they're cut and the relationships between arm length, body length, shoulder width etc. They just weren't the same. I learned this through experience.

                                            Some people can order based on what Giles wears, some people need to watch the ptp, others need to use all the measurements. Others still extrapolate from what they own. The pressure is on becasue returning is a pain in the ass, the garments are premium quality, with a price tag to match and we're usually ordering online, but the only thing to do is to do the research, use the data, ask the questions then cross your fingers.

                                            Can I ask what you are specifically looking at and whether you own any IH tops from before?

                                            “Some of those that work forces
                                            Are the same that burn crosses”

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