IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK - Black Deerskin Western Shirt - The Big Buck
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Do people owning this shirt notice they need to use a lint roller as much as they do their black denim shirts?
Is it a warm shirt taking the place of moleskin?
Too hot to wear it actually, i will wait this autumn to give an opinion ^^
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Am I the only one who thinks that the pocket placement is weird on this shirt?
The distance from the left and right pocket to the button bar differs on some shirts. This
is also true for the shirt in natural leather (have a look at the product pics).Unfortunately I also have to say that I was really dissapointed about the leather quality of this shirt.
It feels amazing, no question. But there where severe marks on it, one was nearly a hole where the leather was really thin. -
This is what we say on the product page:
There is scarring to the hides, we try to avoid as much as we can, but there may be small imperfections in the hide - if you can't embrace the perfection-is-in-the-imperfections, then this shirt is not for you
I will speak to Simmons Bilt re: the pocket placement - thanks
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@Barbarian:
Am I the only one who thinks that the pocket placement is weird on this shirt?
The distance from the left and right pocket to the button bar differs on some shirts. This
is also true for the shirt in natural leather (have a look at the product pics).Unfortunately I also have to say that I was really dissapointed about the leather quality of this shirt.
It feels amazing, no question. But there where severe marks on it, one was nearly a hole where the leather was really thin.That is not a defect in my opinion. It is how the leather was and you need to embrace it rather than worrying about it. It becomes unique to you.
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Sure. I have read and understood the additional text on the product page. In the end what matters is how you interpret "small". I have no problem with imperfections like this:
But on this defect the leather is really thin and think that a real hole can develop quickly.
That would be a litte too much character for me. But in the end that is just my personel opinion. Have a nice weekend all.
David
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Ah that’s very unfortunate David. Scarring on the skin is no big deal. But a pit like this I cannot find acceptable either.
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Hey @Barbarian Dave we are sorry to see this! I have dropped you an email so please look out for it and Giles will follow up with Simmons Bilt regarding the pocket placement also.
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I have just spoken to Steve at Simmons Bilt. The patterns he is using are the same patterns that he has been using for our shirts since he started making them. He is not trying to make excuses, just stating a fact. I have asked him to look at tweaking them so that the edge of the pockets are the same distance from the centre of the placket.
In his defence, he is not the only one with this issue….
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@Giles
I hope the olive big buck will get this "upgrade" !?
I always thought it´s a photo thing and not in real , also that the left hand pocket seems to be a little lower ! -
awesome
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it looks like the pockets are at equal distance from the 'middle opening' of the shirt (where you button them up), but the front placket on the left hand side makes it look like the left pocket is closer to the edge.
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@Alex
Any updates when the olive buck will be available?
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@Daniel San over the weekend actually got to see the Big Buck in person wow it’s incredible the inside is insane I will definitely be getting one when it’s restocked.. even my boys were trying it on ..
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@Jcaz6996
Hey James , did you see the olive or the black ?
What about the repair of your jeans? -
awesome, let us see some pics on the Y3 thread when you have the time
Haraki wore the black buck ! seen some pics
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@Barbarian:
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Unfortunately I also have to say that I was really dissapointed about the leather quality of this shirt.
It feels amazing, no question. But there where severe marks on it, one was nearly a hole where the leather was really thin.Perhaps better Alcantara with the next shirt @Barbarian Dave ?
A few thoughts about this leather for those cityslickers…
The leather is made of hides from deers living in the woods and mountains of Germany and Austria. They are no livestock and not kept in barns like cows. They run through woods and across the hills, the male have antlers and fight with each other during rutting season. Of course they get wounded and get scars. These animals are smaller than cows, the hides therefore are smaller too. Deer are shot by hunters. Usually the younger and smaller ones are shot because of the meat being easier to use. The big males are shot more seldom and mainly because of their huge antlers. It is therefore difficult to get larger pieces of leather without any scars. This is no problem with the traditional Lederhosen which are made of several small pieces but difficult for shirts and jackets... not to forget the bullet-hole.
The tanning is done in an old and traditional way the so called Sämischgerbung. The tannery making the hides for Ironheart is the last one in Germany and there are only a few others left in Austria. Tanning this way is enormously labour-intensive and time-consuming. For those german-speaking:
https://www.gerberei-kolesch.de/herstellung This is no industrial tanning the result is a super soft but hard-wearing leather but again with a sometimes uneven result keeping the natural surface of the hide alive.
The tanning results in a beige-coloured leather (you can see it on the inside of the shirts). The dyeing again is then a very labour-intense process. The natural dyes are applied to the surface by hand with brushes several times. The leather is not dip-dyed, the colour is only on the surface and the leather does not absorb the dye consistently leading again to a sometimes uneven result. From the starting point with the tanning process to the final leather it takes at least one year! This is not just leather it is a cultural heritage... just like traditional Japanese indigo dyeing perhaps. I think everyone getting one of these shirts should have that in mind and treat it with respect to the animal that hide he is wearing and the people behind the making...
Pretty sure Harakisan was wearing a Big buck over the weekend too a black one.
