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    • Signal11S
      Signal11
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      Shit!

      Giles, since your prediction was almost a year ago:

      Because Iron Heart has a healthy and growing customer base outside of Japan, we are probably the best able of the Japanese brands in our space to weather this storm.

      Is this still happening?

      Having no destination, I’m never lost.

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        Man, that sucks.

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        • louisboscoL
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          wow. this is shocking. i was literally just (2mins ago) saw some tees haraki posted and then came across this photo and remembered what you @Giles said about the industry's downturn.

          what triggered my think was the 2020 date at the end.. and just wondered if it meant anything for IH.. and then this news came..

          also, from the translation, it says that kobayashi-san is stepping down and someone is taking over FLATHEAD, with kobayashi-san venturing out into another business/brand. is that right or did i misread?

          "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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          • O
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            Didn't expect it would be the Flat Head.  Is this only the tip of the iceberg and there are more to come  😞 ?

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              Danny RnH
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              The Flat Head is very special to us personally and to Rivet & Hide. Giles was the distributor when we started out in 2012 and The Flat Head was our first brand  and our first ever delivery. Having TFH gave us much needed cachet and opened the door to other brands in those fledgling days when we were trying to get this show on the road.

              We started the business at home and for the first year operated from our living room and any other nook and cranny in our West London flat. Customers soon started knocking on our door eager to see The Flat Head  clothes in person and were so exited that they could now find the brand in the UK. We never knew back in 2012 that we'd take R&H in the precise direction of where it is now. We are where we are thanks in large part to The Flat Head and the bloody amazing clothes they make: jeans, t shirts, flannels, superlative leather jackets and random crazy stuff such as 100% rayon sukojans that kick the competition out of the park.

              That said, they have never been the easiest brand to retail with peculiar idiosyncrasies we've learnt to adjust to (and curse about at times) but you know..it's always been worth it. This week we got a big restock of Real Japan Blue Jeans collabs, heavyweight t shirts and horsehide jackets. We now have 4 new members of the R&H family due to recent expansion and the pure joy on their faces marvelling at the sheer quality of  the clothing reminded  us of our own reaction to that first delivery back in 2012.

              Our business with The Flat Head has grown year on year since 2012. It's such an integral part of R&H and our own journey that we feel pretty emotional about these developments. At this point we are hearing that some core Flat Head production will continue. We really hope it does.

              Danny
              www.rivetandhide.com

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              • ChrisC
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                @Danny:

                …we are hearing that some core Flat Head production will continue. We really hope it does.

                Same.  The market will be less interesting without them in it.

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                • BloodnThunderB
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                  So bummed.  I've always loved The Flat Head as I felt they really pushed the boundaries in terms of design and patterns.  Time to stock up.

                  IG: Shadesofindig0

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                  • JDelageJ
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                    I'd love to read more about where this market is going - if someone could point me to @Giles ' post, I would be grateful. I'm a student of business & economics, and I always find those stories insightful & fascinating.

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                    • louisboscoL
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                      flat head was also the brand that propelled me into this whole japanese denim direction.. i've never owned any of their jeans thus far which is a bummer but their tees were perfect for me..

                      "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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                      • neph93N
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                        @JDelage:

                        …if someone could point me to @Giles ' post…

                        Check the first link in the first post of this thread.

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                        Are the same that burn crosses”

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                        • GilesG
                          Giles
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                          The 2020 means nothing, don't fret.

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          • GilesG
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                            @Signal11:

                            Shit!

                            Giles, since your prediction was almost a year ago:

                            Because Iron Heart has a healthy and growing customer base outside of Japan, we are probably the best able of the Japanese brands in our space to weather this storm.

                            Is this still happening?

                            Yes, we are growing faster this year than we have for a long time…

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • GilesG
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                              https://www.heddels.com/2019/04/flat-head-president-resigns-suspends-production/?fbclid=IwAR1LIik7Y5kegk50obA5FsLsOwZWJzEOoRGwylM2fC5Ow-6rhDxa1pXfga4

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                I received an email this morning from The Flat Head and most of its core production will continue. Basically, ambitious full new collections will cease but core ranges (jeans, tees, flannels, leather) which they do so well will continue.
                                It will be interesting to see in which direction the new brand goes.

                                Danny
                                www.rivetandhide.com

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                                • GilesG
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                                  Street

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                  • spitfiredealerS
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                                    Street? Really?

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                                    • GilesG
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                                      What I heard from someone much closer to them, than I am now…..

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      • spitfiredealerS
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                                        Be interesting to see their take on that.

                                        Is that what they perceive as a more prosperous market?

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                                        • GilesG
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                                          Fast fashion and street are really dominating the Asian market atm.  That is one of the reasons that more traditionally-focused brands are having a hard time.  If it was not for our international market, Iron Heart probably would not be a viable business, the market for our kind of clothing has been decimated in Japan.

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                            @Danny:

                                            I received an email this morning from The Flat Head and most of its core production will continue. Basically, ambitious full new collections will cease but core ranges (jeans, tees, flannels, leather) which they do so well will continue.
                                            It will be interesting to see in which direction the new brand goes.

                                            Thanks God for that.

                                            Danny, if you don't mind me asking, what's FH concept behind their sub-brands Hard Bird and Club Label anyway?

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