All Things Mac/ Apple
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I've had an IPhone 5 for two years now. Pretty much always have a mophie case on it.
Here's it compared to a cut out of a 6+. It doesn't seems that crazy to me.
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…which is why I thought optical bar codes was a smarter approach. Those are already everywhere.
Probably easier to spoof a barcode than an NFC Token Request.
Good details on how it works over @ http://bankinnovation.net/2014/09/heres-how-the-security-behind-apple-pay-will-really-work/?utm_content=buffer40115&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
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A 16-digit number? That's pretty trivial to represent optically. I think NFC is a solution in search of a problem. Starbucks and others have demonstrated optical bar codes working fine for mobile payments. $0.02
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Yeah, I'm sorry for not being more clear, it would be an ad-hoc token generated for each purchase.
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so correct me if i'm wrong but these tokens or barcodes we're talking about here is like a one time pin when you purchase something online?? like when you purchase something online and your cc issuer sends you a one time pin to confirm the purchase.
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Yep. You'd have a secure channel to your bank and the token would be combined with a unique device identifier and a timestamp and sent to the bank. It's a simple technology that is already in use. No new hardware would be required and even device based POS systems like square could use the camera on the iPad or whatever to process the payment.
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after selling off my first batch of iphones 6 and 6+ camping overnight, oh god how good i finally feel to be able to secure the 6+ i wanted having been in front of my comp trying reserving over the past few nights. gonna collect tomorrow, so ecstatic that i managed to secure it!!
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Does anyone else think apple is kind of wack now? Fuck. I mean seriously…coming out with 2 phones is just weird for apple, and I tried them today and even the 6 is super borderline to me. Keep in mind I usually never ever get the old hardware, but I'm heavily considering a 5s. It's just such a bummer since everything else about the 6 is sick (screen in particular), but I feel like I'd just be a tad annoyed carrying it all the time. I've got until the 6th to decide though....
I straight up can't believe anyone would get a 6+. This is my hand fully outstretched, and with a 5 it can reach the tip of the phone easily in the same position
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Apple has lost sight of what made them great. Very sad to see.
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Yup. In a few years they'll really resemble android to an insane degree…a shame indeed
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The thing is they will maintain profitability for a long time and won't feel the sting of not putting the product first until it's too late. I saw the warning signs shortly after Jobs passed. Certain things are getting out the gate. I'm not saying that bad things didn't happen in the Jobs eras, but I cannot accept that Apple would release, for example, Safari on iOS 8 that cannot upload a file (functionality we've had in browsers since the 1990s), or a phone that can bend simply by being in your front pocket while you're seated, or a major release with almost no innovation and rife with "me too" functionality.
Apple used to operate as though they were in a silo, now they are clearly motivated by their competitors. I think I've said here before that that's not a game Apple can win, as a vertically-integrated business–Samsung can get into feature wars, Apple will have longer design and production cycles and need to differentiate on a seamless user experience, not a feature arms race.
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For sure… also, is it just me, or what the fuck is up with these leaks too? Back in the day apple was actually fucking secretive. The iPhone 4 scandal was huge and I believe they tried to sue whoever got ahold of it... now everybody and their fucking mother apparently has a perfectly working copy? Some videos straight up guessed almost every feature of the new phones and also mentioned the iWatch. How has apple let it slip that bad? Personally, I really don't care that more information is out, but I don't like that it's something that's drastically changed about Apple since jobs, and this change has already led to changes in philosophy and the product line. And not for the better.
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Ben, I'd get a 6 over a 5s, for Apple Pay. As long as the 6 fit in my front jean pockets, not looked at/tried as my 5s still has a year left on it. I think Apple Pay will slowly take off over the next 2 years…..
Bendgate is really interesting, no comments on it either way. PR nightmare for Apple for sure!
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Whoa… just looked up bend gate. Wonder what apple will do. You're right about NFC, I didn't really think of that... the only thing i don't like about the 6 is that its really close to feeling like a big android phone that's unwieldy.
I thought the same thing about the 5 when it came out, but after using it I totally saw it was better. Definitely did not get the same feeling with the 6, ill have to play with it more...
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i do admit that none of the new tech from apple has been fantastic in it's recent years. very stale thus far to be honest. but i do have to admit as well that being a huge apple fanboy i simply cannot resist getting their stuff. though i have to mention as much as they look like an android whatsoever, their software are clearly a step up from android.
the 6s is huge. and funnily enough few years ago i saw my friend's note 2 and i was like i'm not getting a phone that huge. but fast forward to 2014, i'm here with a 6 plus. what sold me on it was the dual view in landscape and it's optical image stabilization on it's camera
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This bending problem is all my fears come true. Phones are getting too large, and too thin to even carry in our pockets? No thanks. I'm due for an upgrade when I move back to the US, and I loved my iPhone 4, but I'm not sure I want the 6. Maybe I'll be able to get a deal on a 5…
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The Note 3 held up quite well to a similar bend test. You can't extrude aluminum to soda-can thinness on a large device and expect it have sufficient torsional strength. This is something that should have been obvious before a prototype was even made. Nothing more than simple physics and materials science, Apple has to know these disciplines and to apply them, no matter what Jony Ive wants.
I had hoped the Liquid Metal license would produce something cool but to date there is nothing.
This is (or should be) a very expensive recall.
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@grandmasterben I have a 6 and its awesome great size, beautiful screen. Don't listen to the haters. My wife has a Galaxy S4 and you can't compare nice screen and camera but, IMO android sucks it's like comparing Mac OS to windows. Apple products just work period!
ps @Urbanwoodsman has a 6+ and loves it
