IH-888S-21 - 21oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo
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I’d add that it depends on your body shape heavily. I’m a pretty slim dude, and go down from a 34 in 555 and 777 to a 32 in 888, waist goes from the loosest measurement to the tightest with the 888.
555 is skin tight on me with a baggy waist, but I’ve seen thicker guys rock it perfectly.
Measurement comparison is key, follow the website instructions and you’ll be golden. You can count on an inch of stretch or possibly more if you need it. -
@m4xime I do always size for the stretch. My target waist is 34” true, and I always size 888 down to account for it. Different fabrics have different stretch posted.
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@WhiskeySandwich @goosehd @Tago-Mago
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Merry Christmas y’all!
Just got a fresh pair of 888s 21oz. I’m under the impression these were washed before they were released to retailers. Purchased from BlackBlue; they had a hard-to-find 33.
But the leather tag is perfect and does not seem to have been washed/wet at any point.
Is the tag stitched on after the factory wash?
I’ve been around this brand for a long time and I’m surprised I don’t know the answer. Ha!
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I am pretty sure the tag gets sewn after the wash. I actually think that the fabric gets washed before the pants are even sewn but I am not sure about that. It just makes sense.
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@yannis Thank you for your reply.
I usually remove the patch for no other reason than to not have to care for it whilst sewn to my pants.
If you are correct, and the fabric is washed before sewn, then I would be best served to soak before wearing, so as to set the constructional stitching, with an eye on longevity and avoiding blow outs.
Normally I cold soak my brand new “one washed” 21oz because they benefit from rinsing remnant starch and finishing agents. Maybe that’s in my head, but I’ve never worn an IH jean right out of the box without a soak.
However…
These feel amazing and I won’t soak if someone can confirm they were washed AFTER construction.
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@Autorotate, they wash the jeans after construction so the stitching is ready to go, the fabric is also sanforized so all the shrinkage is out. 21oz is good to go out of the bag! I just recently washed my 21oz 555s and they didn’t shrink at all. Enjoy it’s a great denim!
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Yeah it’s useless to soak any IH item other than XHS or UHR. Tag on the inside chest of most IH shirts states “wear as long as possible without washing”. I doubt the sanforized jeans are any different.
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@Autorotate thank you for the heads up re: BlackBlue. Have been looking for a 33 for what seems like months.
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@shadow-denim
Yeah buddy. Hope they still have a pair for you. Grayson was very helpful. He took measurements for me before he chucked them in the mail. BlackBlue will get future business from me! IH UK/USA is always numero uno, but in lieu of out of stock inventory, BlackBlue came to the rescue. -
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@ruffbadger this was the latest from a couple of weeks ago
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Ah! Many thanks. Standing by.
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I have a lot of IH shirts, but have never owned a pair of jeans. Looking to rectify that.
I’m 6’4 usually between 197-200 lbs and a true waist measurement of about 37.5 inches (any fat I put on goes to my stomach, and my stomach alone.
I bought a pair of the indigo 21 oz 555’s in tag size 36 (37.4 inch waist) that came in today, and oh my goodness, they were unwearable. Perfect in the waist and top block, but could barely get them over my thighs. They were like tights from the knee up, but awkwardly baggy from the knee down. My wife said they reminded her of the 90’s women’s flared leg jeans, LOL. Weird thing is, I don’t think a single person in the world would describe my thighs as thick.
Thinking of trying a pair of 888’s, but the dimensions kinda make me think they may actually be too baggy overall.
You guys think they are worth a shot or should I just wait for new batches to see if measurements change?
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@Snafu generally speaking, the best course of action is to take a pair of denim that fits you, measure them the Iron Heart way (https://www.ironheart.co.uk/content/how-we-measure-bottoms) and then look for the fit that comes closest to those measurements.
You can also compare up to 3 different pairs on the website by clicking the "+ add to compare" button on the product page. This is for the 555-21, 666-21 and the 888-21:
https://www.ironheart.co.uk/module/leofeature/productscompare?list=359%2C779%2C1478
When looking at the waist dims also keep in mind that the 888 has a higher rise, as shown in this cut comparison:
https://www.ironheart.co.uk/content/cut-comparison
As far as "too baggy" is concerned, this is fairly subjective and ultimately comes down to your personal preference.
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For me, 888 is the best cut around. Forgiving in the top block and thigh. Just the most classic and perfect taper below the knee to not look too skinny. It’s the perfect jeans for substantial boots. Engineers, Cowboy, wellingtons, etc.
First time I tried them on years ago at Self Edge in LA and what turned me off was some wide hip flaring. But what I, and others will report, is that flaring settles over time and with wear and begins to look natural. And it is precisely the extra fabric/room in the hip which makes these super mobile, comfortable and dare I say “airy”.
Embarrassingly, I have stacks of IH denim and the 888 has FINALLY answered my prayers.
In the 888 I have 25, 21 and 14oz. I can confidently get rid of everything else.
Just need some Ducks!
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@Autorotate said in IH-888S-21 - 21oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo:
Just need some Ducks!
You absolutely need some Ducks!
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@Tago-Mago yeah man, recently, someone on eBay had brand new 888 33 ducks. They didn’t last an hour. Damnit!
@Snafu I also wanted to mention the miracle of the higher rise. Much more comfortable getting the jeans off my hip bones and closer to my lower gut. No more plumber’s crack. It’s so subtle that you can’t really tell looking at fit checks from other models of IH. But to experience it in person is revelatory.
Re: bagginess. I actually find the 634 to be somewhat baggy with a mid rise. I think it’s owed to lack of taper below the knee. YMMV. -
@Tago-Mago
Thanks for taking the time to reply. I never noticed the “compare” button so that’ll be a nice tool to use going forward.I measured out a pair of jeans I have that I really like (N&F Shinigami - weird guy fit) and the measurements were all very similar except for the knee. The 555’s were a tiny bit slimmer at the thigh, and that’s exactly what I was going for. I think I just grossly underestimated the knee measurement (8.6 on the 555 vs 9.6 on the Shinigamis) and how that taper from upper thigh to knee can affect the fit at the middle thigh.
No biggy though, still in the learning process and atleast IH customer service is top notch.
I’ll definitely be comparing around to see If I can find what I’m looking for.
