Lifter problems
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Is there any benefit to squatting with a trap bar over a trap bar deadlift? Big fan of the latter, but never thought of racking a trap bar.
My chiropractor claims that squatting with a trap bar (i.e. you pick it up from the ground and stand up straight) puts a lot less load on your back and protects your lower back. But I get your point. As I'm thinking about the motion, a trap bar deadlift would look almost identical to a trap bar squat.
I also listened to a podcast with one of those professional sports trainers about how he loves the deadlift but only uses a trap bar. More specifically, he trains his athletes to perform the ascending motion and drop the weight at the top of the lift instead of performing the descending motion. He elaborated that the ascent is the most beneficial aspect of the lift in adding burst power to sprinters and the descent is the leading cause of injury in the deadlift.
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Interesting!
The physics of a trap bar to me makes more sense. Keeping the weight centered instead of foreward. Then again, front squats are a thing, so I supposed it depends upon what you're trying to do. I just think deadlifts with trap bars feel much better.
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Back before the pandemic, I toyed with the idea of buying my own trap bar and taking it to the gym, but I just couldn't shake how ridiculous I'd feel carrying that thing in and out of the car
Now that I have a garage gym, I have no excuse, except that it's the cost of a pair of UHR jeans that I'm eagerly awaiting/anticipating
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Anyone out there using a Whoop, @BOTC_OLLY and I started an Iron Heart team for a little friendly competition. Feel free to join using the Team Invite Code COMM-16FC15 or DM me your username and I can manually add you.
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Do y’all like your whoops? I did a quick read on it but wasn’t immediately sold.
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Covid is lingering, I still have the blocked nose and mild cough. Thankfully I have my own gym so can workout again this week (last week I was really bad with it), but I am running out of breath very early into sets. F*ck covid.
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I switched from traditional bodybuilding several months ago, to "functional" bodybuilding a la Revival Strength. The program is done by an ex-crossfitter who was tired of his body feeling so beat up. I was right there with him. Pushing closer to 40 these next couple of years, my body was starting to constantly hurt even with mobility work and stretching. It got bad when I threw my back after hitting a deadlift PR during covid (~243 kilos or 535 freedom units).
This week is benchmark week. I was challenged to do a 5 rep squat max and then a single after. Managed to pulled off a top set of 365 for 5 and then a single at 405. No PRs on this round, but the best part - no hip, back, or knee pain as i have seemed to correct all of them over the last 6 months.
I just wanted to tell someone since I lift alone. My girl knocked out a 160lb 5rm too.
Just noticing lots of folks here complaining of aches and pains, and the general idea on the internet about squatting/deadlifting being bad for you. They are not. Squatting and deadlifting incorrectly are bad for you.
I'm 36 and continuing to improve my joints and overall strength daily. Have been doing this stuff seriously since 2008.
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I switched from traditional bodybuilding several months ago, to "functional" bodybuilding a la Revival Strength. The program is done by an ex-crossfitter who was tired of his body feeling so beat up. I was right there with him. Pushing closer to 40 these next couple of years, my body was starting to constantly hurt even with mobility work and stretching. It got bad when I threw my back after hitting a deadlift PR during covid (~243 kilos or 535 freedom units).
This week is benchmark week. I was challenged to do a 5 rep squat max and then a single after. Managed to pulled off a top set of 365 for 5 and then a single at 405. No PRs on this round, but the best part - no hip, back, or knee pain as i have seemed to correct all of them over the last 6 months.
I just wanted to tell someone since I lift alone. My girl knocked out a 160lb 5rm too.
Just noticing lots of folks here complaining of aches and pains, and the general idea on the internet about squatting/deadlifting being bad for you. They are not. Squatting and deadlifting incorrectly are bad for you.
I'm 36 and continuing to improve my joints and overall strength daily. Have been doing this stuff seriously since 2008.
I'm pretty happy with my system right now but I'm always on the lookout for a replacement, just in case. Got any details? Gonna be 42 this year and I'm dealing with all of those aches now and then.
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I switched from traditional bodybuilding several months ago, to "functional" bodybuilding a la Revival Strength. The program is done by an ex-crossfitter who was tired of his body feeling so beat up. I was right there with him. Pushing closer to 40 these next couple of years, my body was starting to constantly hurt even with mobility work and stretching. It got bad when I threw my back after hitting a deadlift PR during covid (~243 kilos or 535 freedom units).
This week is benchmark week. I was challenged to do a 5 rep squat max and then a single after. Managed to pulled off a top set of 365 for 5 and then a single at 405. No PRs on this round, but the best part - no hip, back, or knee pain as i have seemed to correct all of them over the last 6 months.
I just wanted to tell someone since I lift alone. My girl knocked out a 160lb 5rm too.
Just noticing lots of folks here complaining of aches and pains, and the general idea on the internet about squatting/deadlifting being bad for you. They are not. Squatting and deadlifting incorrectly are bad for you.
I'm 36 and continuing to improve my joints and overall strength daily. Have been doing this stuff seriously since 2008.
Nice. I am similar age, but only been lifting since 2012 or so. I recently switched to more of a "powerbuilding" programme as opposed to a pure strength programme. Still in the hypertrophy cycles, and my goodness doing 8-10 rep sets and deliberately leaving reps in the tank is a hell of a lot easier than pushing myself to near failure like I have been for years.
Just noticing lots of folks here complaining of aches and pains, and the general idea on the internet about squatting/deadlifting being bad for you. They are not. Squatting and deadlifting incorrectly are bad for you.
To add a little nuance to this bit, I think I read or heard somewhere that regular lifters have fewer back problems than the average person. The hypothesis, which seems plausible to me, is that because they are trained their back will be better able to handle injury caused by incorrect form when lifting (i.e. daily life). While it's anecdotal, when I think of all the people in my life that I know that don't lift and their complaints about their back injuries caused by silly things like their kid wriggling funny when they picked them up and throwing something out of whack, it seems to make sense to me.
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I'm pretty happy with my system right now but I'm always on the lookout for a replacement, just in case. Got any details? Gonna be 42 this year and I'm dealing with all of those aches now and then.
I'm running the Juggernaut AI programme which is available as a subscription app on iTunes and Google, etc. I have my own gym in the garage since lockdowns so I see the subscription as basically replacing my gym membership fees. I'm running their "powerbuilding" programme, which has 4-5 hypertrophy cycles with nice, easy, 8-10 rep sets, before doing two strength cycles at the end to test new 1 rep maxes, etc. I'm still in cycle 4 or something, so not gotten into those strength cycles yet, but so far the higher rep work has led to far fewer complaints as far as joints are concerned.
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@EdH:
I'm pretty happy with my system right now but I'm always on the lookout for a replacement, just in case. Got any details? Gonna be 42 this year and I'm dealing with all of those aches now and then.
I'm running the Juggernaut AI programme which is available as a subscription app on iTunes and Google, etc. I have my own gym in the garage since lockdowns so I see the subscription as basically replacing my gym membership fees. I'm running their "powerbuilding" programme, which has 4-5 hypertrophy cycles with nice, easy, 8-10 rep sets, before doing two strength cycles at the end to test new 1 rep maxes, etc. I'm still in cycle 4 or something, so not gotten into those strength cycles yet, but so far the higher rep work has led to far fewer complaints as far as joints are concerned.
I'm also on a hypertrophy program in the garage! It's about 4 days of lifting per week and the reps are usually 4-7, 7-10, 10-15. Sometimes reps go as high as 25 for light stuff with bands. I use a remote trainer who puts together the programs on his website and answers questions via email.
I briefly flirted with going back to heavy lifts (2 sets of 5) and managed to hurt my back and hip within 2 weeks LOL. Nothing serious, at least nothing that rolling my back over a lacrosse ball couldn't fix, but serious enough to knock some sense into my head about my age
And on those non-lifting days, I ride the assault bike. Love that thing!
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I'm pretty happy with my system right now but I'm always on the lookout for a replacement, just in case. Got any details? Gonna be 42 this year and I'm dealing with all of those aches now and then.
Check out revival strength or Marcus filly on Instagram.
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I'm currently using Dr Dani Antonellos as a coach. She's an osteopath and WBFF competitor, who works with Dr Andrew Lock, a genius physio and man mountain. My programme is focused on improving my back, which has been trashed by two years of lockdowns that the State of Victoria endured.
So far it seems to be going well. Dr Lock's theory is that most injuries are caused by weaknesses, imbalances, or poor technique, and that focusing on building up strength will cure most problems. I'm doing activation exercises, which no doubt will make me look like a complete idiot to any gym-crushes, and a lot of unilateral work, but things are slowly improving.
But, as @EdH and @iammortalcombat said, lifting heavy is good for you if you do it correctly.
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Came up with this Forearm trainer to do some exercises for the foream!
I just now need to add a weight plate to it!
