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    • FOXYF
      FOXY
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      @ChuckDenim:

      Anyone experienced with this one?
      http://shop.dc4.de/Men/Jeans/TOYS-McCOY-Engineers-Denim-Lot-135D-Straight::1027.html?XTCsid=f29g6gni58vkm242lafr0dvoq5
      Looks really nice IMHO.

      Got the Take5 version - what do you need to know?

      Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

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        MikeC
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        Toys McCoy is a different brand. It's not the same as Real McCoys.

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          beautiful_FrEaK
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          They were at one point but splitted several years ago, right?

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            At least in three branches yes but nobody knows the excact details of the Group structuring than the japanese Partners themselves imho

            and for reference an article about Toys McCoy from Cold Summer published in rawrdenim

            http://www.rawrdenim.com/2013/12/introducing-toys-mccoy-classic-vintage-military-wear/

            Cheers,
            David

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              MikeC
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              ^The article states that its a separate brand, but they did split from Real McCoys years ago.  So, its a separate brand. I'll trust Kyle, since he speaks Japanese and works for The Flat Head.

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                legally yes of course, this is what we all said. but then nobody of us knows the exact details of the restructuring back then and so it could be that you have the same shareholders through different companies in all or some of the restructured companies (which are legally separate entities distributing their brand) or maybe not. However, my 2 cents. 🙂

                Cheers,
                David

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                  davito
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                  found this on japanese Wikipedia, happy translating 🙂

                  http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ザ・リアルマッコイズ

                  Cheers,
                  David

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                  • mclaincauseyM
                    mclaincausey
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                    Translation via google:
                    Summary [ edit ]

                    The Real McCoy , Inc. The Real McCoy International to expand, (The Real McCoy's) is, mainly military and American casual , motorcycle is a fashion brand that deals with hardware. Flight jacket is famous as a brand to the faithful reproduction. It is now being deployed "real McCoy (Real McCoy)", "Joe McCoy (Joe McCoy)", from the three brands "buco (Buco)" of the riders line of work line of the military line. By the way, English called "the real McCoy" means "real authentic" colloquially translation. , One of the old real McCoy founder Hiroshi Okamoto is independent from the former real McCoy, currently Toys McCoy I have deployed another brand (Toys McCoy).
                    History [ edit ]

                    1987, illustrator Hiroshi Okamoto magazine is a work destination at the time POPEYE in featured, 300 pieces limited A-2 flight jacket and company in 1988 next in response to the great response sales and production, and that sold out in the reservation time the REAL Japan cause (old real McCoy) (1990 incorporation). [1] The current inception Fellows Masahiro Shimura representative was also link the name to the staff.
                    Then, flight jacket and made ​​a name as a reprint of the brand, in 1997 Joe McCoy is allowed to birth, jeans to play a full-scale entry into the industry. But in 2001, bill of fraud becomes a cause, June 16 the same year, the Tokyo District Court to the Civil Rehabilitation Law to apply for the bankruptcy was. Total debt of about 1.1 billion 30 million yen as of May 2000. The following year, Hyogo Prefecture Kobe distributor of NYLON (nylon) will take over the post, the real McCoy International to reach the current as (current real McCoy).
                    Brand [ Edit ]

                    Joe McCoy [ Edit ]
                    Joe McCoy is (Joe McCoy), one of the brands to expand the real McCoy. Joseph gating McCoy called, the actual in Old West, Kansas person who has changed to the Great White Way in the overnight poor village Abilene, had its foundation garment manufacturing and sales company to "JG McCoy firm" Moshimo If I were created under the assumption that …,. Since its birth in 1997, I support the work of the line real McCoy. It is a brand that disappeared once at the same time as the old real McCoy of bankruptcy in 2001, but made ​​a comeback in the fall of 2009 by the current real McCoy.
                    At present, the following jeans have been released from Joe McCoy.
                    Model 1930 - Lot.900. Loose straight model that has a back cinch, descend of work pants. 14.75oz ( oz ) denim.
                    Lot.901 - War model. World War II by the substance of control, the war model simplification was timed in detail. 14oz denim.
                    Model 1947 - Lot.905. Age is said to be the golden age of jeans, highest peak model of time the economy reached a peak after the war material control is released. 14.75oz denim.
                    Model 1966 - Lot.906. Jeans from the working pants, tight straight model of when I was beginning to be positioned as a fashion. 14.75oz denim.
                    Model the late 1960s - Lot.907. Boot-cut model that was made for the needs further expansion of jeans that of fashion. 13oz denim.
                    Eight Hour Union [ Edit ]
                    Eight Hour Union is one of the brand label of Joe McCoy, (8 Hour Union), and expand the work wear mainly. 1912, I was born for Joe McCoy to undertake Union Made Gamentsu full-scale production. The Great Depression in 1930 of the times, coveralls I was released.
                    Ballpark [ Edit ]
                    Ballpark is one of the brand label of Joe McCoy, (Ball Park) expands the sportswear primarily. 1921, I was born knitwear line of Joe McCoy is developed.
                    Outdoor drawing Sportswear [ Edit ]
                    Outdoor drawing Sportswear is one of the brand label of Joe McCoy, (Outdoorsmen Sportswear) expands the outdoor clothing mainly. Is multiplied by the sports boom of 1921, was born along with the ball park. Wool jacket, which was launched in 1933 played a big hit in the United States, released a mountain parka and down jacket in 1966, was the support of backpackers.
                    Old Joe McCoy [ Edit ]
                    The creation of the history of fictional be in the old Joe McCoy, Joseph gating McCoy was real, he has founded the "J · G · McCoy Shokai", expand the work wear products primarily based on the history had. The birth by old real McCoy in 1997. It gained popularity and launched a jeans Lot.901 whose characterized by intense vertical drop. By old real McCoy bankruptcy, old Joe McCoy product is also discontinued in 2001, currently, the scarcity value is higher.
                    Jeans of the old Joe McCoy
                    Model 1871 - Lot.900. Back pocket with only one, models with no suspenders belt loop.
                    Model 1942 - Lot.901. World War II era, War model simplification has been scaled to detail by the control of military goods. At the time, this denim fabric to the intense vertical drop is called a very unusual topic.
                    Transition model to 905 から 901 - Lot.901A. Detailing maniac such as cotton flannel sleek features.
                    Jack Per fly model of 901 - Lot.901Z.
                    Model 1895 - Lot.S901.
                    Extra Heavy model of 901 - Lot.901XH. Model of the illusion that was released before military control in 15oz.
                    Model 1938 - Lot.902. Suspenders were abolished, specification with a back cinch. model hidden rivets, belt loop has been adopted for the first time.
                    This has been a extra heavy first production model of the 902 is only notation (XH) - Lot.902XH.
                    Model 1922 - Lot.S902.
                    Model 1937 - Lot.904. Model adopted the "red tab" for the first time in Joe McCoy.
                    Model 1928 - Lot.S904. Denim fabric is changed from 13oz 9oz.
                    Model 1947 - Lot.905. model called made by the time the post-war supplies control has been solved, "reached the point of denim pants, a masterpiece" he said.
                    Extra Heavy model of 905 - Lot.905XH.
                    Model 1951 - Lot.906.
                    Zipper fly model of 906 - Lot.906Z.
                    Model 1952 - Lot.S906XH. Is the 80th anniversary of establishment of a business model Joe McCoy.
                    Model 1958 - Lot.907. Narrow silhouette close to the 66 model.
                    Lot.908 - 1962 年 boot-cut model. Hidden rivets were abolished, bar-tack specification.
                    Lot.807 - black denim pants.
                    ※ Before the brand Joe McCoy is born, jeans with leather patch that has been referred to as the "Ultimate seeker" were present.
                    Denim jacket of the old Joe McCoy
                    Lot.210
                    Lot.211
                    Lot.212
                    Lot.710
                    Lot.711
                    Lot.714
                    Lot.715
                    Lot.921 - 1st Model. Simplification War model of four buttons.
                    Lot.925 - 1st Model. Regular model of five buttons.
                    Lot.935 - 1st Model. Wool blanket with.
                    Lot.926 - 2nd Model.
                    Lot.826 - 2nd Model. Black denim specification.
                    Lot.927 - 3rd Model.
                    Buko [ Edit ]
                    Buco or Buko and (Buco), Joseph Zen view Garay Company The abbreviation of (Joseph Buegeleisen Company). The name of the brand founder and Joseph Zen view Garay. Originally a 1933 Michigan Detroit is a bike accessories company originated, the brand with the historical background to deal with the production, such as a motorcycle jacket in the 1940s. At present, the real McCoy is responsible for reprint mainly, Toys McCoy Helmet has also been released from.
                    Brand of old real McCoy era [ edit ]
                    (- From "Ⅰ 04 TRADING POST-REAL McCOY #" published in 1999)
                    Eight Hour Union (8 Hour Union)
                    Since its birth in 1912, the traditional brand of union-made workwear Continue production plant in Chicago. Going beyond that is a work tool simple and sturdy, functional beauty of pursuit simply, it has colored the back side of American history class as a symbolism of the color blue.
                    Western lunch Man (Western Ranchman)
                    American hero Cattle Drive has produced, cowboy. Authentic work wear for workers saddle on hand down to our descendants of the 20th century became a folk tale is far frontier, the truth of its glory muddy.
                    Joe McCoy Sportswear (Joe McCoy Sportswear)
                    Joe McCoy leather clothing (Joe McCoy Leather Clothing)
                    And 1930s 1920s, in the United States that upheaval to the Great Depression from the enjoyment of the bubble, heroism and class consciousness of the workers has made remarkable development. Label which received herself the favor of the masses in this era symbol of a real man to be able to rely on in tough was "leather".
                    Ball Park (Ball Park)
                    Early 20th century, Joe McCoy's will be supplied to the club and university professional and jackets uniform, practice sweatshirts, and T-shirt baseball in response to record victory of the Chicago Cubs, golden age in the 1950s I greet.
                    Yellow Medicine Work boots (Yellow Medicine Work Boots)
                    the sacred forest Minnesota Yellow Medicine, indigenous tribes many initially lived a group Sue once, work boots factory inherit the culture of the native gem was founded is 1903. I cling to the bench made bigoted since.
                    Outdoor drawing Sportswear (Outdoorsmen Sportswear)
                    Brother brand of sportswear was born in the 1920s, it was listed in the subject hunting a heavy duty, climbing, camping, fishing mainly, down products since the 1960s penetration, you have built up a strong position.
                    Work boots [ Edit ]

                    In the real McCoy, work boots I have also dealt with. I will show below the main boots.
                    Work Boots "Rigger" (rigger)
                    Standard model that was produced on the basis of the dead stock of the 1960s. Work boots with a combination of Cat's Po~usoru in glass finish cowhide of plane toe.
                    Sports Boots "Rambler" (Rambler)
                    Which was changed to Ragusoru rubber outsole of RIGGER (rigger).
                    Work Boots "Bear Head" (Beaheddo)
                    Work boots with a combination of Cat's Po~usoru to horsehide of plane toe. It is a work boots on behalf of the real McCoy.
                    Roper Boots "Chinook" (Chinook)
                    A combination of synthetic sole Italian leather Quebec Pecos type of work boots.
                    Shop [ Edit ]

                    THE REAL McCOY'S Tokyo - Tokyo Shibuya Sarugakucho
                    THE REAL McCOY'S Osaka - Osaka Osaka , Nishi-ku, Minami Horie
                    THE REAL McCOY'S Sapporo - Hokkaido Sapporo Chuo
                    Scandal [ Edit ]

                    December 19, 2011, part-time clerk who works in Tokyo shop, visited the store two minutes before closing Bibiruooki the Twitter abuse in. Commotion that big tree person who saw the (post statements on Twitter) that tweet complained on Twitter on twitter clerk burst into flames as a result has occurred. In this effect, the home page of store operated server is down. Midnight the same day, published an apology to apologize the scandal that caused part-time clerk in a blog on the real McCoy [2] .
                    Footnotes [ edit ]

                    ^ (refer to the history of the old established real McCoy) American casual brand attention Encyclopedia Toys McCoy Product
                    ^ your report and apologize

                    Think it, be it.

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                      davito
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                      thx mclain I was only able to do it in German due to my settings, thanx

                      Cheers,
                      David

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                      • Jordan23J
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                        @davito:

                        thx mclain I was only able to do it in German due to my settings, thanx

                        Would you be so kind to send me this as pm! Thx. A.!

                        Enjoy ya addiction!

                        AE

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                        • Finn666F
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                          ^ lazy ass! 😉

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                            beautiful_FrEaK
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                            … and that's coming from you 😛

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                            • Finn666F
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                              there's lazy and there's lazy my friend 😃

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                                beautiful_FrEaK
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                                and you are both.
                                I'm really surprised you even answered 😉

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                                  davito
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                                  @Jordan23:

                                  @davito:

                                  thx mclain I was only able to do it in German due to my settings, thanx

                                  Would you be so kind to send me this as pm! Thx. A.!

                                  Enjoy ya addiction!

                                  Hi A i can do that for u during the day. I find the English translated version a bit better than the German one, it reads somehow better imo

                                  Cheers,
                                  David

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                                  • GilesG
                                    Giles
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                                    Jeez, the German version must be super bad…. 😃 😃 😃 😃

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      davito
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                                      Haha yeah G 🙂 🙂

                                      Cheers,
                                      David

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                                        davito
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                                        And to Quote our fellow Sugar Mountain few pages back with nice info

                                        @Sugar:

                                        Far as I know, the two companies are completely separate now. I have also chatted with the guys at Take5 about the same subject! (I think my wife was reading Lightning in the corner ;))

                                        @Sugar:

                                        A little more info… Toys McCoy is run by Hiroshi Okamoto (the guy on the right in the pic below). He split with the McCoys that came to be owned by Hitoshi Tsujimoto of NYLON in the 1990s as I understand it. Toys McCoy sub brands include McHill, the Steve McQueen line and Buco.

                                        And an interesting blog entry:

                                        The McCoys at this point were perhaps the most relevant vintage replica company anywhere in the world. There were others however that sat on the peripherals that were equally proficient like Pherrows and Buzz Rickson and even the original conception of Evis produced some amazingly beautiful garments. These companies were everything that I came to associate with integrity and authenticity and for many years I was a die hard customer. Sometime during the 2000's I began to feel uneasy about many of these Japanese companies and the direction that they were taking or not taking as the case may have been. The McCoys underwent a strange break up of partnerships that is forever difficult to understand unless you are an insider and rumours ran amok that the president had squandered the profits on ridiculous things including a B-17 bomber. As it happened a new Real McCoys / Toys McCoys emerged but it was different with Hiroshi Okamoto at the helm gone was the feeling of ultra authenticity and stripped down military utilitarianism and what replaced it was an air of safeness, a cutesy world of Disney characters and the over exploited Felix the Cat icon that smacked of the same Japanese-ness that exploits Hello Kitty or Captain Santa, essentially I felt the Real McCoys had become the Cockpit, over indulgent, over detailed and overpriced.

                                        http://papanuisays.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/critiquing-market-lets-be-honest.html

                                        Cheers,
                                        David

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                                        • mclaincauseyM
                                          mclaincausey
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                                          There was also the (ugly?) split between the JP and NZ RMC branches.  The latter markets their jackets now in Japan as The Few, though globally as RMC NZ.

                                          Think it, be it.

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                                          • Chiba J.C
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                                            Rainbow Country is another split off from the ol McCoys clan.

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