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    • ChrisC
      Chris
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      I'll rant a bit on Mike's post…  I hate Levis ripoffs.  I don't care if you call it a "repro" or a "homage" or "inspired by" or whatever.  Make your own stuff.  Be your own company.  Don't steal (and it is stealing) the features that make Levis distinctive.  The best thing to happen to Japanese denim manufacturing in the last decade or two was the Levis intellectual property lawsuit.  It kicked everyone out of the rut of making the best, most accurate to the last stitch copies of 501s possible and forced them to be original.  Imitation may be the sincerest form of flattery, but it's also the laziest.

      Patches with two mules, horses, elephants, unicorns, ducks, whatever pulling apart a pair of jeans instantly pisses me off.

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        what do you think the red W and IH arcs are inspired by?

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        • J-IVJ
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          I personally liked like OG stuff from IH's. Being able to walk around and having people mistaken it for a pair of Levi's at first glance is pretty neat. Only those who have good knowledge (and a good eye) can spot the difference between the two.

          I'm as ugly as you

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          • ChrisC
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            @jacoavlu:

            what do you think the red W and IH arcs are inspired by?

            I know they were inspired by Levis.  Everyone who makes jeans was likewise inspired, to some extent or another.  You can't make 5 pocket denim pants and not use Levis as a reference.  But the arcs and the W are different, distinctive.  No one will mistake them for Levis or anything else.  They are uniquely Iron Heart.

            And I'm not bothered by fit- making functional, good looking pants limits your range of possible measurements pretty drastically.  Everyone is going to end up making jeans that are kinda close to some pair of jeans that Levis made at some point in its 100+ year history.  That's just a reality of clothes manufacturing.  That's why the details matter.  The arcs, the patch, the tab, the thread colors, the selvedge line, the coin pocket, the fabric itself; all of those things are what differentiate one design from another.  I don't want jeans that aren't Levis to look exactly like Levis.

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            • rocketR
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              Chris made a good point, due the lawsuit IH was pushed to develope a own identity, a very important thing….

              rocketrocksrox 🤙🏼🤙🏾

              It's all humbug, like everywhere
              R.I.P. Geo

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              • GilesG
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                And we are so pleased that happened…..

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  well it's all shades of gray, perhaps Chris I misunderstood your tone, re repro/inspiration, clearly the IH arcs are an evolution of the levis arc and the red W is there because the lawsuit forbid a red patch on the inner edge of the back pockets, just struck me as odd how one could be so opposed to straight repro stuff when we know our favorite brand isn't all that far removed

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                  • natehateN
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                    i just killed my blender

                    don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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                      @MikeC:

                      I just watched a documentary about waste management in Italy. All I have to say is that country is fucking up big time. I guess it has to do with La Camorra (organized crime syndicate) running most of the waste management.  The part that is the most fucked up, is that they buried toxic waste in the Acceran Mountains countryside, now people's life expectancy in the area is 50 years old, not to mention that all their food is polluted with toxins.  This is a great example of how being a piece a shit now, could fuck it up badly for YOUR kids (not your kid's kids)….food for thought.

                      Yup you might read the book from Roberto Saviano, its called Gomorrha. He is a local from that region and described in this book how the camorra runs the business. Since then he is no safe more.

                      Me for example would never eat or buy mozzarella di buffalo from that region, campagna. I always ask in restaurants where the mozzarella on a pizza is from if not declared.

                      Cheers,
                      David

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                        @natehate:

                        i just killed my blender

                        get a vitamix

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                        • natehateN
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                          thats what my buddy said to jacoavlu, but thats a pair of boots or almost two pairs of jeans

                          don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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                            they have a refurb model that I think is about $300

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                            • bagley920B
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                              Is the blender for work or home use Nate?

                              If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                              • seawolfS
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                                I vote for Blendtec.

                                “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                                @zeebeeleather

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                                • natehateN
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                                  home use bagley

                                  don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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                                  • madmondayM
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                                    now looking up blendtec & vitamix to figure out which one to get for tuesday for the practical-after-Valentine's-Day-gift.

                                    vitamix offer a ten year warranty, sh!t wish i could get a warranty on my denim.  that would be the sh!t

                                    head high, middle finger higher

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                                    • bagley920B
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                                      I have a Ninja and love it

                                      If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                                      • madmondayM
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                                        always been scared of Ninjas.  they tend to jump out of no where & then your dead.

                                        head high, middle finger higher

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                                        • Megatron1505M
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                                          3 inches of snow on the floor and my town is in total fucking grid lock, an hour and 10 minutes to make a 15 minute journey  😠

                                          Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                            @madmonday:

                                            now looking up blendtec & vitamix to figure out which one to get for tuesday for the practical-after-Valentine's-Day-gift.

                                            vitamix offer a ten year warranty, sh!t wish i could get a warranty on my denim.  that would be the sh!t

                                            monday I don't think you can go wrong with either. Blendtec are generally a little more low profile to fit under cabinets if that matters. I think the vitamix is a little more heavy duty and the warranty is great but truly both do the job (for us thats making kale shakes) really well. Don't bother with the ones with the fancy programs. On off high low is basically all you need.

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