Random Rants
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Here’s some more sunshine for the Brits:
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This is one of those things that is bugging me in relation to online shopping in general (not IH specific and I'm taking my mod hat off for this). Buying multiples online of anything with the thought of returning items that don't fit or work out, cost businesses money and in the long term will cause the price of items to be raised to make up for those losses. I get the convenience of buying stuff online, personally love it, and know one of the downfalls is that items sometimes don't work out.
Those losses affect the money staff get paid, the investments in new technologies to make businesses more efficient, and the ability of shops to offer things we love and want.
I try really hard to make sure that each purchase counts so that I'm not making numerous returns. Owning a business myself, I see how everyone and everything costs money. ISP's, shipping, credit card fees, insurance, taxes, etc.
The next time you place an order and hit the buy now button, think about what you're doing and if you really are doing the best thing for everyone involved.
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@goosehd I agree with what you're saying above, but to play devil's advocate - with the online retail market dominating vs brick-and-mortar for many products, it can be pretty difficult to go out and try out limited production items. When the ONLY viable option is to mail-order, trial and error can be the only way to dial in something like fitment. I had to send back my first pair of IH jeans to figure it out. It took some trial and error, and if you're ordering, then returning, then ordering again, then possibly returning again, it can take a long dang time to get what you're after. So, I think there is a bit to both sides. On the positive - once you dial something in, and you know what works and what doesn't, the back-and-forth can be reduced for subsequent orders. I think the moral is for buyers to be conscious of your above message while being careful about excessive orders.
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I agree with the sentiment but when I buy Carhartt WIP off End Clothing, their shit sizing guides and customer service, does not leave me with any guilt when I buy two pairs and return one (sometimes both). I guess being a billion dollar company they can afford to tolerate the volume.
Appreciate that when the facility is there with more attentive service such is the case in a lot of our industry, it can be more frustrating.
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on the OTHER other hand. there've been countless times ive ordered something cheap, received it, hated it, but had to keep it because return shipping etc was simply not worth it. and thats sunk cost for a buyer. that shit sucks.
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Good points gentlemen! That's why you should support those businesses that put time and effort into what and how they offer it. If a company can't be half assed in what they do, then why do you support them?
I know that the businesses I frequent, are not afraid of picking up a phone or answering an email to answer simple questions that have saved everyone time and money.
"I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)
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As a general principle, we do not mind people buying a couple of sizes whilst they dial in their size. We want to make it easy for people to click-now, and we hope that if they become repeat customers, their sizing is a known thing, so the incidence of multiple purchasing diminishes with time.
But, a few things to bear in mind.
- If you buy 2 things with the express intent of returning one, you are potentially losing us a sale
- The days of free return shipping are rapidly coming to a close, as online retailers realise the cost to them of offering it
- We do not get credit card or Paypal fee's refunded for refunds - that is an actual cost for selling nothing
- You have to pay to return it
So, we would rather work with you to get it right first time.
My sub random rant is the number of people who purchase shit and then almost immediately ask for a refund, we do not get credit card or Paypal fees refunded for random acts of stupidity.
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You would not believe the "reasons" we get for cancellations.......
Here's my favourite from yesterday:
"asked to cancel, got no money"
Where you born without a brain, or did a lobotomy happen later in life?
Here's another, he bought a Ladies Medium (L-M) and thought he was getting a Large Medium....
"OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011
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I read an article once that some of the big e-commerce retailers just ship returns to a clearance warehouse to process and get rid of returned items. The big retailers have found it cheaper and easier just to write items off because of damages to the items, shipping related costs, and processing fees.
It's a sad state of affairs when we just dispose of things like that.
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@Giles said in Random Rants:
You would not believe the "reasons" we get for cancellations.......
Here's my favourite from yesterday:
"asked to cancel, got no money"
Were you born with a brain?
Laughing my fucking head off
Been over tens years. Amount of purchase I have done can’t remember.
Return can’t think of many. Hardly not at the rate I buy.
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@goosehd said in Random Rants:
@Giles What happens when IH gets returns that are in less than "new" condition?
I'll ask @Graham the current policy, but when I ran the show, we would make an offer of refund amount based on what we thought we could get for it in the outlet, or tell the customer that we would return it to him and give no refund.
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Still rolling with what @Giles said above.
We had a customer return a pair of jeans that were washed... hot.... WASHED HOT, he had only had them a couple of days.
I called him, he played dumb and said he didn't notice and it may have been his roommate?! so I posted them back to him
@gmac_ironheart
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