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    16.5oz Raw Indigo/Indigo Duck

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    • Megatron1505M
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      I think that the honest answer is that most customers who have a little more experience and appreciation for this kind of clothing will see past the selvedge aspect, for others it will be an important detail as I believe Self Edge found with a minority of customers on the original run of the 301's.

      My personal feeling is that for something like this it is definitely about the fabric and how it feels, wears and evolves. It isn't standard denim so the considerations are different.

      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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      • GilesG
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        My preference is for selvedge, if the mill (this one:  http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5545.msg309722#msg309722 ) say they do not want to risk the looms, then so be it.  They have a projectile loom so it will be woven by the same husband/wife team….

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        • ChrisC
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          If the options are:
          A) attempt selvedge and possibly destroy the looms,
          😎 give up on the double indigo duck entirely,
          C) make non-selvedge and lose a few sales from people unwilling to look past that one feature,

          then I'm going to go with option C every time.  As Mega said, it's a different fabric, so the priorities are different.

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            Right you are, Chris!

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            • trail and arrowT
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              trouser turnups do look so much better with selvage!

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                I love the turn-up on my 9301s because they are sewn with red thread on the outseam.  Maybe that would be something to consider to replace the loss of a selvedge line.

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                • GilesG
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                  OK.  We have decided not to risk the loom.  It is old and irreplaceable.

                  So the balance of the duck will be woven on the projectile loom.  Haraki will let me have all of the selvedge duck we have made and I am just trying to decide what to do with it.  Haraki's suggest a special run of jeans called the "Loom Breaker Edition"

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • SeulS
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                    So a couple of pairs were made with the selvedge ID, or he's giving you the fabric?..

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                    • GilesG
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                      We have made enough selvedge for 120-140 pairs, I can do with that what I wish….

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • trail and arrowT
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                        "Loom Breaker Edition" = Great

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                        • JCar2666J
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                          ^ PLUS ONE

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                          • CutlasshoundC
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                            You should throw a '999' in the title too…. Or perhaps 911 for our American friends.

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                            I ain't got time to bleed.

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                            • Megatron1505M
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                              "Destructo-Duck"
                              "Duck Destroyer"
                              "Demon Duck"
                              "Re-Duck-ulous"

                              Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                              • SeulS
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                                Fucky Ducky

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                                • veloaudioV
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                                  G, Is a sample 526J in the works? Or has the loom issue forced a change if plans?

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                                      Bourbon: because living in Kentucky just makes you want to drink

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                                      • GilesG
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                                        @veloaudio:

                                        G, Is a sample 526J in the works? Or has the loom issue forced a change if plans?

                                        It'll be done, the sample maybe out of selvedge, but the production run will be non selvedge….Same with the Type I...

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                        • mclaincauseyM
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                                          This thread is awesome. Chris nailed it on the options and I like Haraki-san's idea.

                                          Think it, be it.

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                                          • trail and arrowT
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                                            THE DUCKTATOR

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