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    • ChrisC
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      Yeah, that's what "trademark difficulties" mean- it ain't real.

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      • GilesG
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        Yes.  If it was Ventile, they'd call it Ventile…..People are inclined to think that Ventile is a fabric descriptor like denim.  It is not, Ventile is a trademarked product, much like BMW or Ford.

        Edit - Chris got there first...

        Think of it like this.  Rolls Royce is a car, a car is not a Rolls Royce...

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            • ChrisC
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              @Giles:

              It is not Ventile….

              They call it #8 Japan cloth 8.3oz.

              That is not Ventile.  It is what Haraki and I call Jentile.  It is a Ventile look-a-like made in Japan.

              It's this, so no.

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              • mclaincauseyM
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                Interesting; Just to play Devil's Advocate, 8.3oz fabric weight as listed on the Gustin site would be 281.42gsm. Ventile does not list that weight on their Web site:

                http://www.ventile.co.uk/specification.php?PHPSESSID=9e2b0643f1ed4802422ccb58c305c759

                Think it, be it.

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                  • FergzF
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                    I guess if it's Ventile it would be called Ventile, if not then it's something else albeit similar as the guys have explained.

                    I would be little concerned that it is being advertised as something it's not.

                    I would compare Gustin products to similarly priced products in terms of assessing "value" but that said, when it comes to denim for example, with Iron Heart I always know absolutely surely what it is I'm getting. That's part of the premium. I have a pair of Gustin jeans that I took a gamble on. To be fair they were what I expected however were I expecting the same quality for less as I know i would be getting with IH then I would be disappointed. With IH I have never been disappointed and set high standards in expectation of any order.

                    Anyway, good luck to them though, to say it again, I would not be enamoured with presenting a product that is not what it actually claims to be, on principle.

                    "Better to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission"

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                      New to IH (haven't even bought a pair yet) but thought this might be a good place to start. I've got 5 pairs of Gustin and a few other similar  brands. But want to move up to a big boy pair of jeans and figured IH has the best reputation. What can I expect? I'd like something in a 18-20oz, tapered, and let's just say a denim that's interesting. I'm just starting my research for my perfect pair.

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                        • CutlasshoundC
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                          @DugG personally I'm a fan of the IH over dyed denim but that's just me!

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                          I ain't got time to bleed.

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                            @DugG

                            http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5259.0

                            http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=6279.0

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                              Gustin Japan Hickory stripe work shirts out. $132 Their first releases of a work shirt .
                              https://www.weargustin.com/store/917
                              If you decide to buy one get $5 off with this coupon.
                              https://www.weargustin.com/invite_from/6029

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                                  Read that but am one for not stirring up the pot. 😉

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                                      Went for the black apron last month or so, interested to see what it's like. Apparently it's 16oz.

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                                            Whilst Gustin maybe okay by itself. When compared directly next to IH, the attention to detail in the IH pop in nearly every photo.

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