Gustin
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It is not Ventile….
They call it #8 Japan cloth 8.3oz.
That is not Ventile. It is what Haraki and I call Jentile. It is a Ventile look-a-like made in Japan.
Nowhere on the product page do they say "Ventile"
& BTW, I am not knocking what they are doing or what they are using, I am just pointing out that it aint Ventile....
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Yeah, that's what "trademark difficulties" mean- it ain't real.
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Yes. If it was Ventile, they'd call it Ventile…..People are inclined to think that Ventile is a fabric descriptor like denim. It is not, Ventile is a trademarked product, much like BMW or Ford.
Edit - Chris got there first...
Think of it like this. Rolls Royce is a car, a car is not a Rolls Royce...
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It is not Ventile….
They call it #8 Japan cloth 8.3oz.
That is not Ventile. It is what Haraki and I call Jentile. It is a Ventile look-a-like made in Japan.
It's this, so no.
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Interesting; Just to play Devil's Advocate, 8.3oz fabric weight as listed on the Gustin site would be 281.42gsm. Ventile does not list that weight on their Web site:
http://www.ventile.co.uk/specification.php?PHPSESSID=9e2b0643f1ed4802422ccb58c305c759
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I guess if it's Ventile it would be called Ventile, if not then it's something else albeit similar as the guys have explained.
I would be little concerned that it is being advertised as something it's not.
I would compare Gustin products to similarly priced products in terms of assessing "value" but that said, when it comes to denim for example, with Iron Heart I always know absolutely surely what it is I'm getting. That's part of the premium. I have a pair of Gustin jeans that I took a gamble on. To be fair they were what I expected however were I expecting the same quality for less as I know i would be getting with IH then I would be disappointed. With IH I have never been disappointed and set high standards in expectation of any order.
Anyway, good luck to them though, to say it again, I would not be enamoured with presenting a product that is not what it actually claims to be, on principle.
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New to IH (haven't even bought a pair yet) but thought this might be a good place to start. I've got 5 pairs of Gustin and a few other similar brands. But want to move up to a big boy pair of jeans and figured IH has the best reputation. What can I expect? I'd like something in a 18-20oz, tapered, and let's just say a denim that's interesting. I'm just starting my research for my perfect pair.
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@DugG personally I'm a fan of the IH over dyed denim but that's just me!
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Gustin Japan Hickory stripe work shirts out. $132 Their first releases of a work shirt .
https://www.weargustin.com/store/917
If you decide to buy one get $5 off with this coupon.
https://www.weargustin.com/invite_from/6029
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Read that but am one for not stirring up the pot.
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Went for the black apron last month or so, interested to see what it's like. Apparently it's 16oz.
