John Lofgren (Speedway)
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Received a new pair today…
Donkey punchers - Natural chromexel
this is my second attempt to buy the donkey punchers, first failed due to the wrong size, and then I failed to find my size. I had to wait for almost a year for new releases and finally found this boots in a different color(the first attempt was to buy burgundy).this is size - 9, and Natural Chromexel color.
I have bought them from Standard and Strange web store, some description from their website:
*6" lace-to-toe boot
*Goodyear Welted
*Exclusive John Lofgren last
*Natural Chromexcel Horween leather
*Japanese horsehide lining
*Vibram 705 sole + 700 heel combination
*American-made brass eyelets and speedhooks
*Stacked logger heel
*Removable leather 'kiltie' toe cover
*Made in JapanThe Horween Chromexcel in natural used for these boots has not been dyed or treated in any way, and will have a range of tones out of the box. With wear, they will settle into a uniform color from use.
my own first impression is very positive, they are comfortable like bespoke boots, and very well made.
box
good packing
just out of the box
first try
closer look
horse hide lining, very soft and supple
vibram sole
sole edges has very nice finish
after initial treatment using some Saphir for chromexel stuff
probably would wear like that, without kiltie…
some photos with 777-XHS
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Beautiful boots and love the natural color. Congrats!
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Nice score @Bulatik85 ! John makes killer footwear.
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those look so good
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Love em
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Beautiful boots and love the natural color. Congrats!
Agreed they are beautiful [emoji3590]
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So I've got a question for y'all, not sure if anybody's had the same experience but I'd love to hear about yours if so.
I've got a pair of Lofgren M-43s that I absolutely love, which led me to pick up a pair of their black engineer boots as well. I've had the engineers since October—they look absolutely killer, and feel great once I get them on. The problem, however, is getting them on. I have high arches, and for whatever reason, getting my right foot in (I guess it's the bigger one) is really, really tough.
I got a really long shoe horn off of Amazon that has helped a bit, and another tip that I picked up online is the ridiculous act of tearing a hole in a plastic bag, putting my foot in it, sliding it into the boot, then yanking the bag out.
I keep thinking that they're going to break in and this isn't going to be a problem anymore, but it hasn't happened. Frankly, the leather is pretty soft already and I think that maybe my instep is just too damn high. I don't get it—I'm relatively skinny and so are my ankles. What gives? Anybody else had this experience? I know sometimes we suffer for fashion, but this just seems absurd, given the price.
Been thinking very hard about posting them for sale due to my frustration—if I can't enjoy them, then hopefully someone with a more average instep can. That said, I'd of course like to hold onto them if anybody can provide any last tips. Thanks in advance!
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Thanks to both of you! I've wondered about something like this. I know a good shoe repair place in town, so I'll hit them up later this week.
Hopefully it'll work. Seeing that beautifully evo'd pair above was getting me even more depressed thinking about letting mine go, haha. I'll report back.
I was also just thinking that one interesting thing is that the boots actually feel pretty loose once I get them on—the tight bit is really more of a bottleneck effect right around the ankle. So by wearing them a bunch, I'm not even sure I'm stretching out that part, rather just the brief (though not always so quite so brief, haha) moments I'm putting the boots on. I'll go over it with the cobbler and point out the trouble areas with the hopes that he can put extra focus on those.
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That sucks. Mine are somewhat tough to get on, then a bit loose when I do. I think the pattern needs to be reworked, since the strap should make it easy to get on and then snug when buckled. But then again maybe Japanese legs and feet are different.
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I too had to add an insole but they feel unbelievable with them in place.
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@mclaincausey what kind of insoles did you put in yours?
I was at REI the other day and tested out a pair of Oboz insoles in my Blundstones—they felt pretty incredible, was thinking about spending the $30 and picking up a pair. Wonder if they might be good for the Lofgrens.
That said, if they end up fitting after a stretching from the cobbler. Picking em up today—thinking positive!
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Mine are Dr. Scholl's gel insoles, but I have some Oboz boots and their insoles are outstanding, especially for arched feet.
They are great boots, but the sizing is wacky–I think a 9 instead of a 9.5 (I am 9.5D on a Brannock) would be a better fit for me, but I bet I wouldn't be able to get my foot in there in that size. Maybe Japanese feet are different, but at least for me it seems they should have a half size smaller footbed and should add at least a half in of diameter to the ankle.
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Yeah it's crazy—I just went to check em out at the shoe doc but they're still too tight, not really much change that I could see. They're gonna put em on the stretcher for a bit more… fingers crossed, as I'd like to keep these things.
The sizing is indeed weird. I normally wear a 13, but Standard & Strange recommended taking what size you normally wear in an Iron Ranger, which for me is a 12. Seems to be the same with a lot of boot makers (eg Viberg). Once I get my feet in the Lofgrens I have plenty of room, almost like it's a bit too loose—it's just the ankle and heel where I get hung up.
No idea.
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FWIW: I have the Badalassi and nattys in 11" and 10.5" respectively. They're exactly the same length and wide AF. As much as I love these boots (and make no mistake I do), the advertised JL sizing info and subsequent lackadaisical sizing advice from vendors on a 1K pair of boots is interesting to say the least. These boots are E width at MINIMUM and should be advertised as such. It would save a lot of folks some grief. You really need to pay attention to your foot's volume. Simply equating the JL engineer to say RW IR can be very misleading (yes it's an apples to oranges comp with the Engineer however the point remains). I wear Alden (barrie last in 11.5-12), AE (11-12 depending on last), RW (10.5 in IR, etc.), Attractions engineer (10.5-268), etc. These fuckers are wide AF compared to anything I have ever worn, notably in the heel/instep area. The early 268 Attractions have their own issues (I never really noticed), however, the instep is far less voluminous. I'm a 11-11.5 (Left vs Right) with a D width via Brannock. This is coming from someone quite comfortable with the engineer boot's characteristic/infamous heel slip. I went round and round with different insoles ending up with half-soles with the low volume in the toe box. This massive volume in the heel/instep area is why you see the inevitable adjustments such as boot socks (aka my 1k boots fit like shite), etc. Hope this helps.
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Welp, I just picked them up today after a second round of stretching, and I think they're going to be ok. In addition to the stretch, my shoe guy put a little slippy (silicone?) spray along the inside back of the boot where my heel slides in—that was the biggest problem area.
You're right about the fit being wide, though. My heel definitely moves around a bit once my feet are in, but it's nothing too bad, and I think I might indeed opt for some insoles after hearing y'all talk about having helpful results with them.
I guess the thing I still find so bewildering is that I'm a pretty skinny guy and have found these boots to be downright impossible at times to get on—I've given up on several occasions and just put on another pair. Why were they especially tough those particular days—maybe too much salt the night before? Haha I don't know. All I know is that my feet are pretty normal if not narrow width, average volume (this was a new term to me until I bought some hiking boots recently), and it's been a mega struggle. For anyone who had slightly heftier feet and/or ankles: forget about it. And that's just kinda nuts for a pair of boots that cost so much… would someone even be able to return them? I guess there'd have to be a way?
Regardless, psyched mine have finally been at least somewhat tamed. Thanks a ton for everyone's help!
