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    IH-666L - The Devil's Left Hand

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    • Finn666F
      Finn666
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      @Winchy:

      Yeah sorry, my bad.

      it´s all good lad. shit like that happens faster than Giles can say "feck!"…
      and besides that, there are always a few lads on the forum checking on you gos vegas folks 😉

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      • GilesG
        Giles
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        @MikeC:

        These measurements look like post soak 666S measurements. Some consistency would be nice.

        They are pre soak measurements.

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          @Giles:

          @MikeC:

          These measurements look like post soak 666S measurements. Some consistency would be nice.

          They are pre soak measurements.

          Obviously, that's why they look a bit small.  Was hoping for something similar to the 1st Run 666S (presoak). I can't fuck with 12.6", that shrinks to 12.0"-12.3" (in the thigh).

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            My point is that it shouldn't be happening as much as it does.  I know it took a while for these to be produced, but when sizing gets fucked up, it looks like the production was rushed with poor quality control.  The IHxB01xRAW and now the 666S, both came out with incorrect sizing (per the first runs, that everyone loved).  It's just disappointing.

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            • GilesG
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              Next time I see Haraki and Tom I'll point it out to them.  My view is that if, with over 40 years of pattern making and jeans making experience between them, even they can't hit the bulls eye every time, it is probably a bit more complex than you or I think.

              Actually, I could talk for hours about why stuff like this happens - and trust me you would be fascinated, but quite frankly when our quality, our diligence and expertise is called into question, I just can't be bothered.

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              • pillowPANTSP
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                @Giles:

                @Finn666:

                w36=12.6" thigh
                w38=13.5" thigh

                …that's almost 1 inch difference while all the other measurements differ like 0.3" give or take!
                not working for me then!

                We have double checked.  38 is actually 13.2".  We have updated the sizing tables above.  Thx for the spot Finn

                DAMN IT…. 13.5 looked alot better to me

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                • GilesG
                  Giles
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                  There may be a pair with 13.8 hence the discrepancy….

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • GilesG
                    Giles
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                    Shrink test results for size 33 IH-666S and IH-666L

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      zwer
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                      From my limited experience, LHT stretches more than RHT. Maybe I'm making that up?

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                      • GilesG
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                        I don't know - time will tell…..

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        • BrownIconB
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                          LHT … generally speaking, yes.

                          btw, those proportions are fab!  when is availability? .. sorry, haven't been following this particular thread.

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                          • GilesG
                            Giles
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                            These will be upo tomorrow - running out of time now….

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • RocknRollR
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                              Does LHT denim always shrink less than RHT, or is it just the way it turned out on this particular one?

                              When you can, Giles, a pic of this next to something we're more familar with would be great so we can see the colour comparison.

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                              • GilesG
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                                @RocknRoll:

                                Does LHT denim always shrink less than RHT, or is it just the way it turned out on this particular one?

                                When you can, Giles, a pic of this next to something we're more familar with would be great so we can see the colour comparison.

                                It's just the way it turned out on this one…..

                                I have a pic I took couple of days ago.  I'll post it in a min

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                • GilesG
                                  Giles
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                                  18oz RHT Raw..

                                  14.5oz LHT Raw ..

                                  Notice the different direction the twill runs and also how much more of the filling yarn (weft) shows on the LHT (this is because the warp yarns get tightened in the weaving process)…

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                  • Finn666F
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                                    great pics G. …thx!

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                                    • GilesG
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                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                        That's one crazy model.  Nicely done. Loving the details, especially the slight bleeding around the top button already…

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                                        • GilesG
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                                          Live…..

                                          http://www.ironheart.co.uk/bottoms/ih-666l.html

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                          • tatmantallT
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                                            wow… those look amazing... much better than I was expecting. I really really really like the characteristics of that LHT

                                            "I know to you it may sound strange, but I wish it would rain…"- The Temptations

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