Runners

[jerkules]

Good for you man, sounds like it’s going well. A 3:30 marathon would be a serious achievement, only thing to do now is sign up for one and give it a shot.

I’m looking to sign up for another marathon soon, if my wife’ll let me . Now I know I can finish one, I want to try to beat my time and get the sub- 4hour I wanted. Funnily my PB half-marathon occurred at miles 3 to 16 in my actual marathon, with 1 hour 42 minutes. Goes to show how shit the tail end of the marathon went that I exceeded the 4 hour point

[Dmart]

Had a 10 mile race on a hilly course today. Finished in 1:14. Quite happy so far but it wasn’t an all out effort. Felt comfortably hard all the way.
Never did a 10mile race before so I had no idea how fast I should take it.

[Nik]

Good work 10 miles is a fun distance. There's an old 10 mile event here in Portsmouth called the Great South Run. I find 10 miles less all out than 10k and more like the half marathon.

[Dmart]

It is indeed, 10k are brutally hard, at least to me, because you run well faster than threshold.
Yesterday was tricky since the course had lots of cobblestone and a total of 200m elevation.
I like the distance, I took it as a good tempo run.

[goosehd]

Question for you guys: Do you have different shoes for different distances and races?

[Dmart]

@goosehd I don’t think I can count them anymore
Different shoes for different purposes. Easy/recovery runs, long runs, speed work, trail and race. For races I differentiate between races up to 10k and everything above. I don’t do track races, but the guys that do obviously have track shoes as well.

[Nik]

Yeah I’m a multi shoe runner. Nike Vaporfly 2 is my race shoe, Nike invincible 2 is my slow shoe, hoka speedgoat 5 is my trail shoe, and currently don’t have a fast training shoe, the Nike tempo next would do that but it is due a refresh. Actually tried on the streakfly today but wasn’t convinced.

[Dmart]

If you look for a great speed work, 5k/10k shoe, Adidas Takumi Sen, either 8 or 9 they are almost identical.
If you just want a good speed work shoe, Saucony endorphin speed 3 works great for me. Actually from easy over long to fast paces.

[goosehd]

Which leads me to another question: When you are racing do you have a pair that are relatively new (50-100 miles) or do you run with shoes that are completely broken in and you have trained in them for that kind of distance?

[Dmart]

I typically have one or two key sessions prior to a race in the shoes. I wear them for a couple of races or around 150miles and then they become my workout shoes (long runs with goal pace).

[Nik]

I only race in shoes that are broken in and I replace them when they feel dead. I keep track of mileage on strava.

[Dmart]

Just some pics from the race! We need IH singlets and split shorts, but preferably in a light denim

[Nik]

Good pictures looking strong

[T4920]

Thanks for the advice on the other thread @Nik

How do you typically pace the consumption of something like Clif Bloks? During a half marathon for example?

[Nik]

They come in a pack of six. I have one right before the race (having eaten breakfast a couple hours before), then one every 30 mins after that.

[T4920]

@Nik noted, next long run i'll follow this advice and see how it affects my performance compared to fasted..

I clearly have a lot to learn!

[Dmart]

Don’t you get GI issues having solid food on a run? I can handle it on the bike, but running I can only drink or have gels.

[Nik]

Depends on the pace. I ate a clif blok every half hour on my 3:07 Paris marathon. When I did 100k in 10:57 I ate whole sandwiches. Gels are easier in that there's no chewing, but I haven't experienced any digestion issues yet. But these kinds of things are different for everyone and definitely worth practicing regularly to figure out what works.

[marco23d]

Do we have an IH forum strava run club?

[Perpetual_beta]

@T4920 said in Runners:

Thanks for the advice on the other thread @Nik

How do you typically pace the consumption of something like Clif Bloks? During a half marathon for example?

Not @Nik but a half marathon is a hard effort for 90 min for me (I am old), mostly Z4. You have enough glycogen storage and don't need to consume any calories during the event.

On a recent 73 km my pace is a lot slower, basically a long Z2 jog. You are using fat storage and some glycogen. In that settings, "fast" sugars are counterproductive for me and I try to get 200 kcal per hour which seems to be the right mix for energy / avoid GI trouble for me. Gels / Bananas. Only thing I would add is e'lytes for longish and warm. Team mate got admitted to hospital after a hot ultra last year with a Na of 124!