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    • DmartD
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      If you look for a great speed work, 5k/10k shoe, Adidas Takumi Sen, either 8 or 9 they are almost identical.
      If you just want a good speed work shoe, Saucony endorphin speed 3 works great for me. Actually from easy over long to fast paces.

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      • goosehdG
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        Which leads me to another question: When you are racing do you have a pair that are relatively new (50-100 miles) or do you run with shoes that are completely broken in and you have trained in them for that kind of distance?

        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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        • DmartD
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          I typically have one or two key sessions prior to a race in the shoes. I wear them for a couple of races or around 150miles and then they become my workout shoes (long runs with goal pace).

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          • NikN
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            I only race in shoes that are broken in and I replace them when they feel dead. I keep track of mileage on strava.

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            • DmartD
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              Just some pics from the race! We need IH singlets and split shorts, but preferably in a light denim 😂

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              • NikN
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                Good pictures looking strong

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                • T4920T
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                  Thanks for the advice on the other thread @Nik

                  How do you typically pace the consumption of something like Clif Bloks? During a half marathon for example?

                  “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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                  • NikN
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                    They come in a pack of six. I have one right before the race (having eaten breakfast a couple hours before), then one every 30 mins after that.

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                    • T4920T
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                      @Nik noted, next long run i'll follow this advice and see how it affects my performance compared to fasted..

                      I clearly have a lot to learn!

                      “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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                      • DmartD
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                        Don’t you get GI issues having solid food on a run? I can handle it on the bike, but running I can only drink or have gels.

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                        • NikN
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                          Depends on the pace. I ate a clif blok every half hour on my 3:07 Paris marathon. When I did 100k in 10:57 I ate whole sandwiches. Gels are easier in that there's no chewing, but I haven't experienced any digestion issues yet. But these kinds of things are different for everyone and definitely worth practicing regularly to figure out what works.

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                          • M
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                            Do we have an IH forum strava run club?

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                              @T4920 said in Runners:

                              Thanks for the advice on the other thread @Nik

                              How do you typically pace the consumption of something like Clif Bloks? During a half marathon for example?

                              Not @Nik but a half marathon is a hard effort for 90 min for me (I am old), mostly Z4. You have enough glycogen storage and don't need to consume any calories during the event.

                              On a recent 73 km my pace is a lot slower, basically a long Z2 jog. You are using fat storage and some glycogen. In that settings, "fast" sugars are counterproductive for me and I try to get 200 kcal per hour which seems to be the right mix for energy / avoid GI trouble for me. Gels / Bananas. Only thing I would add is e'lytes for longish and warm. Team mate got admitted to hospital after a hot ultra last year with a Na of 124!

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                              • T4920T
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                                Serious question, what do y'all do to alleviate testicular chafing?

                                “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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                                • DmartD
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                                  Chafing creams, Vaseline or try different type of shorts. Some prefer half tights. Fortunately I don’t have these issues.

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                                  • NikN
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                                    I haven’t had those issues either. You either want something to keep things dry or something to lubricate?

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                                    • T4920T
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                                      Just me then! Wearing shorts with a tights like lining only, maybe I need something more substantial to 'hold it all together' cause right now I'm torn to shreds ahaha..

                                      “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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                                      • T4920T
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                                        @T4920 said in Runners:

                                        Serious question, what do y'all do to alleviate testicular chafing?

                                        Turns out all I needed was to wear boxers shorts haha, 27km and no pain!

                                        “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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                                        • DmartD
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                                          Glad that you found something that works. I personally don’t like wearing something below my split shorts but then again I have no issues with chafing.

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                                          • jerkulesJ
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                                            Any distance over ~10miles and I get terrible chafing of the ol’ ballbag 🥜. After the marathon my groin was bleeding from the chafing. I tried loads of different short/liner/underwear combos, nothing helped. It’s weird cause I don’t really notice while running, it only becomes painful afterwards.

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