Samurai Jeans
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@cyclops Im not sure how the measurements differ between the wide and the slim cuts so bear that in mind, but if this helps I am a natural 33" waist and generally wear 32-33" in jeans. Samurai S3100VX I wear a 33, the latest Samurai 25oz I bought a 33" too. The Chinos I bought in a 32" and they fit almost perfectly after a little break in. Denimio places all of those at around the 82-84cm waist mark and I've found Denimio to be pretty reliable for samurai's measurements in my experience.
Let us know what you think of the chinos!
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@cyclops the SJ42BP is the same material as the baker pants. The SJ42CP is a heavy chino pants. Assuming you are talking about the BP, there is a bit more give in these than the CP in my experience. I don’t think there is a SJ48BP, but there is a SJ48CP which is a wide version of the chino pants, so you guys may be talking about different fabrics - chino vs. back satin. Just wanted to chime in because the two fabrics do stretch a bit differently.
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@samo thanks for the input. The one im thinking of is the SAMURAI JEANS Heavy Back Satin Trousers Olive SJ42BP. I saw them on "earthmarket" so was thinking about buying them. Might go with tag 32....but it sounds like most people like the quality of it...
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@cyclops yeah those are the same fabric as the baker pants and they will give a bit in the waist.
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It softens up a lot. I have one from last season and it's got 1 wash. I was surprised how much it's soften up with a wash and some wear. It's a nice lighter sweat shirt.
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@rasta Did it loose much indigo after first wash?
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Marvellous fabric. My Masunagas peaking from pocket -
@cyclops Samurai sizing is interesting. I'm 36" in their s3000 zero denim and s3100 at 35" was too big. Check the specific cut. Generally 33-34" in IH too. Was lucky enough to visit Samurai jeans in Osaka. Amazing store and great service!
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@Denimhead-0 said in Samurai Jeans:
@rasta Did it loose much indigo after first wash?
Maybe a bit, she definitely doesn’t get as much attention as she should. Too many hoodies in the rotation!

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I picked up a pair of the recent 25oz release. Would you guys recommend soaking to them first to get any more shrinkage out? Or just wear them. They’re unsanforized, one-wash.
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Got my SJ42BP today. Its super comfy, drapes well and has nice hand feels. Though i must admit my sense of "heavy" is now a bit warped cause i have been wearing my UHR daily. Like the pants feel so light and not heavy/tough at all. Also the sizing is bigger than i was expecting, should have sized down cause there is also some stretch too. Overall its very nice would highly recommend
