Giles and Alex hit Japan - May 2026
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@phoenixinflight said in Giles and Alex hit Japan - May 2026:
But @pechelman makes a good point
He absolutely does. I was not trying to imply I have gone off Japan, which I absolutely love. I will just give Tokyo a wider berth. There is so much more of Japan that I want to see which is off the tourist track....
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@Giles said in Giles and Alex hit Japan - May 2026:
There is so much more of Japan that I want to see which is off the tourist track.
100% this
Everytime we've done this it feels like we have Japan to ourselves. It's wonderful.
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@Giles said in Giles and Alex hit Japan - May 2026:
Things have changed radically for (in my opinion) the worse. I really disliked Tokyo this time and will actively avoid it in the future. There are a lot of foreign tourists who are simply showing no respect to the Japanese culture and way of life, it's a cheap place to go because of the weakness of the Yen.
Many places that used to welcome or, at least put up with foreigners do not allow them in now. Some places have 2 part pricing; locals and Gaijans.
Alex being able to speak Japanese helped a lot
I love Japan, and I love the people, but I will not be spending any more time than I absolutely have to in Tokyo or Kyoto
We heard about the Gaijin issue but had absolutely no problems when we've been to Tokyo a couple of weeks ago. There are some areas you have to avoid. Same with Kyoto. Most of the tourists follow (luckily) the same paths just don't go there. In the countryside it was even the opposite almost everyone was very nice and welcoming. My son speaks fluent Japanese that of course helped a lot.
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This was generally my experience last time I went too, some of the 'hot spots' like Asakusa in Tokyo or the Kiyomisu-dera in Kyoto were just intolerable, and that was a couple of years ago now. But then you'd walk 15~20 mins away to a different shrine/temple/garden ect and they'd be nobody there at all...
I'm in the guts of planning another trip out and looking at heading well out into Tohoku (Aomori, Miyagi and Yamagata). I'd rather face the language barrier and get away from the big cities.
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@Ross said in Giles and Alex hit Japan - May 2026:
This was generally my experience last time I went too, some of the 'hot spots' like Asakusa in Tokyo or the Kiyomisu-dera in Kyoto were just intolerable, and that was a couple of years ago now. But then you'd walk 15~20 mins away to a different shrine/temple/garden ect and they'd be nobody there at all...
I'm in the guts of planning another trip out and looking at heading well out into Tohoku (Aomori, Miyagi and Yamagata). I'd rather face the language barrier and get away from the big cities.
Sounds like a great plan! We love to just stroll around going just where we can see not too many tourists. Kyoto is also great cycling around. During our recent trip we've been to Takayama to see the old part, our car was at the car park for just 10 min. Groups of tourist, loud in their gestures, voices, behaviour, entering coffeeshops, small shops, small restaurants in large groups... you can see and feel you much the Japanese dislike it. Entering a coffee shop, a restaurant, be kind, make a little bow, ask if you are allowed to come in, they don't want their places to be crowded, especially full of loud tourists. Sometimes they as ask you to wait outside, when they see you are kind, quiet, know how to behave you won't have too many problems. Their country their rules...
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@Chap Precisely! Having some manners and being a little more considerate of how other people's culture works doesn't cost anything. how people can go abroad anywhere in the world and treat peoples homes and livelihoods like a theme park is beyond me ... But i'm probably straying into 'Random Rants' with that
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Starting to rethink my plans for Tokyo and Kyoto this November....
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@phoenixinflight He mentioned being mostly in the Osaka store but comes to Kojima often. He was great helping me find out the right fit and very patient with all my requests.
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@Giles This has also been my experience, this trip we decided to avoid the main cities as much as possible and it's been the best. Quiet, peaceful places, with amazing people, taking the slow train around the coast. We came at the end of the Golden week on purpose, you guys got the brunt of it. Can't really avoid Kyoto and Tokyo these last days though.
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@will6er Just sheer quantity of people all in places that really were never designed for that amount of people, everyone is trying to get the same selfie completely oblivious to everyone and everything around them, while being (probably unintentionally) rude and obnoxious to the local residents - and indeed, other tourists.
I'm sure it happens all over the world in different places, but Japan really just seems to be in the cultural zeitgeist at the moment, and a weak yen making trips there surprisingly cheap compared to pre-covid times even with hikes it flight prices just adds fuel to it.
There's any number of articles out there on the topic of 'overtourism' in Japan but this is probably the most 'to the point' with what it is and how to avoid
