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Belt over the patch or under the patch? Which do you prefer and why?

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    mvb
    Joined: 3 Dec 2009

    Under

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      elclintor
      Joined: 30 Dec 2010

      Under. Just because it feels right.

      Geo

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        madmonday
        Raw and Unwashed
        Joined: 13 Oct 2009

        doesn't matter to me.  my deciding factor is how fast i'm trying to get my belt into my pants & onto my a$$.

        head high, middle finger higher

        last edited by 17 Jul 2012, 20:23 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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          MikeC
          Banned
          Joined: 7 Nov 2011

          Under always. Functionality. Period.

          last edited by 17 Jul 2012, 20:25 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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            scroogen
            Joined: 30 Nov 2011

            I feel like the belt under the patch helps the pants to grip you better… especially with heavy fabrics and thick patches

            last edited by 17 Jul 2012, 20:37 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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              Megatron1505
              見習いボス
              Joined: 10 Jul 2011

              Definitely under.

              Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

              last edited by 17 Jul 2012, 20:57 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                My belief is that there is nothing to be gained from using your thick animal skin patch as a sixth belt loop unless you have a huge waist and need the extra support for your belt.  In all probability, the combination of the super thick patch and the super thick belt will only result in the stitches eventually ripping/breaking, or the patch deforming.  Putting your belt over-top of the patch however, provides some spectacular evo:

                This is a similar situation to the cuffing debate.  Cuffing inevitably destroys your denim much faster than hemming to the proper length, regardless of your aesthetic preference.  But you people do what you want.  It's more money for H, G & P.

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                  Deebo
                  Joined: 17 May 2012

                  Adam, those look awesome.

                  last edited by 17 Jul 2012, 21:16 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    elclintor
                    Joined: 30 Dec 2010

                    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there has ever been an issue with the stitching coming loose due to belt use.

                    Geo

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                      moi is most definitely an under ,,always have,,,kinda natural for me ,,,,

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                        @elclintor:

                        Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there has ever been an issue with the stitching coming loose due to belt use.

                        @yo_mj:

                        My SR patch is unstiching itself so I riveted it.

                        Snagged on the corner of a table (while wearing a belt underneath the patch)

                        @Giles:

                        The patch.  The problem with the patch is that unlike a lot of other brands, the stitching is just at the top and the bottom (rather than all the way around), so that you can get your belt through the patch if that is what you like to do.  That coupled with the thickness of the leather imposes great stress at the 4 corners.

                        The Polycotton that we sew the 634S with is and has alwayts been super strong.

                        On some jeans where we are aiming for a more vintage look (666 and 634SR) we use cotton.  This does tend to give up quicker than Polycotton, but that's part of the vintage look we are trying to recreate.

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                          elclintor
                          Joined: 30 Dec 2010

                          Hmmm Interesting..

                          I figured all patches were sewn on with poly cotton thread.. It usually being a white thread and all.

                          Is that not the case? I've had 666S' and it sure did not look like cotton stitching on the patch..

                          Giles, could you clarify?

                          Geo

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                            LandoCal126 0
                            Banned
                            Joined: 2 Oct 2009

                            Always Under. Never understood people who wore it over when they had the option to put it under. ROY Patches piss me off. Why put in all that work on the patch to have it covered with something?

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                              That seems contradictory unless you wear your shirts tucked in, 'cause the shirt will then cover the patch, so what's the point.

                              My point is evolution and longevity, so I wear my belt over-the-top.

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                                twin
                                見習いボス
                                Joined: 12 May 2012

                                I like the belt under the patch so you can see it.

                                last edited by 17 Jul 2012, 23:20 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  thewickett
                                  Raw and Unwashed
                                  Joined: 6 Aug 2010

                                  Personally, when I tuck a shirt in I go over the patch.. otherwise it seems too gaudy. When things aren't tucked in I go over - it may not be seen often but when that awesome patch 'peeks out'… I haven't seen it personally but I'm assuming it looks sweet.

                                  Not really concerned about durability because even if there are issues, I do happen to know how to use a needle and thread.

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                                    grandmasterben
                                    Joined: 27 Aug 2011

                                    Under-it just makes sense. And my belt is so damn thick it would require more effort to put it over, it just slides under naturally

                                    last edited by 18 Jul 2012, 03:58 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      Giles
                                      IHUK Crew
                                      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                      @elclintor:

                                      Hmmm Interesting..

                                      I figured all patches were sewn on with poly cotton thread.. It usually being a white thread and all.

                                      Is that not the case? I've had 666S' and it sure did not look like cotton stitching on the patch..

                                      Giles, could you clarify?

                                      We probably (though I am not 100% sure) now use Polycotton.  Haraki and I got really pissed off that the stitching on the patches were occasionally failing.  Haraki just told me he was going to fix it.  I think he did.

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                        thomasnunnally
                                        Joined: 5 Jul 2010

                                        Absolutely only wear it under the patch.

                                        Out with the new! In with the old!

                                        last edited by 18 Jul 2012, 12:49 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          CLJ
                                          Raw and Unwashed
                                          Joined: 26 Feb 2012

                                          Under of course. Wear with pride…letting weaker denims know 😉

                                          last edited by 18 Jul 2012, 12:58 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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