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Belt over the patch or under the patch? Which do you prefer and why?

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    @elclintor:

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there has ever been an issue with the stitching coming loose due to belt use.

    @yo_mj:

    My SR patch is unstiching itself so I riveted it.

    Snagged on the corner of a table (while wearing a belt underneath the patch)

    @Giles:

    The patch.  The problem with the patch is that unlike a lot of other brands, the stitching is just at the top and the bottom (rather than all the way around), so that you can get your belt through the patch if that is what you like to do.  That coupled with the thickness of the leather imposes great stress at the 4 corners.

    The Polycotton that we sew the 634S with is and has alwayts been super strong.

    On some jeans where we are aiming for a more vintage look (666 and 634SR) we use cotton.  This does tend to give up quicker than Polycotton, but that's part of the vintage look we are trying to recreate.

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      elclintor
      Joined: 30 Dec 2010

      Hmmm Interesting..

      I figured all patches were sewn on with poly cotton thread.. It usually being a white thread and all.

      Is that not the case? I've had 666S' and it sure did not look like cotton stitching on the patch..

      Giles, could you clarify?

      Geo

      last edited by 17 Jul 2012, 22:23 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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        LandoCal126 0
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        Joined: 2 Oct 2009

        Always Under. Never understood people who wore it over when they had the option to put it under. ROY Patches piss me off. Why put in all that work on the patch to have it covered with something?

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          That seems contradictory unless you wear your shirts tucked in, 'cause the shirt will then cover the patch, so what's the point.

          My point is evolution and longevity, so I wear my belt over-the-top.

          last edited by 17 Jul 2012, 22:49 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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            twin
            見習いボス
            Joined: 12 May 2012

            I like the belt under the patch so you can see it.

            last edited by 17 Jul 2012, 23:20 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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              thewickett
              Raw and Unwashed
              Joined: 6 Aug 2010

              Personally, when I tuck a shirt in I go over the patch.. otherwise it seems too gaudy. When things aren't tucked in I go over - it may not be seen often but when that awesome patch 'peeks out'… I haven't seen it personally but I'm assuming it looks sweet.

              Not really concerned about durability because even if there are issues, I do happen to know how to use a needle and thread.

              last edited by 17 Jul 2012, 23:23 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                grandmasterben
                Joined: 27 Aug 2011

                Under-it just makes sense. And my belt is so damn thick it would require more effort to put it over, it just slides under naturally

                last edited by 18 Jul 2012, 03:58 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                  Giles
                  IHUK Crew
                  Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                  @elclintor:

                  Hmmm Interesting..

                  I figured all patches were sewn on with poly cotton thread.. It usually being a white thread and all.

                  Is that not the case? I've had 666S' and it sure did not look like cotton stitching on the patch..

                  Giles, could you clarify?

                  We probably (though I am not 100% sure) now use Polycotton.  Haraki and I got really pissed off that the stitching on the patches were occasionally failing.  Haraki just told me he was going to fix it.  I think he did.

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                    thomasnunnally
                    Joined: 5 Jul 2010

                    Absolutely only wear it under the patch.

                    Out with the new! In with the old!

                    last edited by 18 Jul 2012, 12:49 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                      CLJ
                      Raw and Unwashed
                      Joined: 26 Feb 2012

                      Under of course. Wear with pride…letting weaker denims know 😉

                      last edited by 18 Jul 2012, 12:58 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        D97x7
                        Joined: 7 Oct 2010

                        For me it depends on which belt I'm wearing that day, my brown 02 is slightly longer so goes over whereas the shorter black 02 goes under, simple as that!

                        last edited by 18 Jul 2012, 13:36 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                          supersalami
                          Joined: 18 Jun 2012

                          why would anyone even wear it over? isn't the thick leather patch meant to be shown? and btw i don't even remove my belt … ever ... it's easier to just leave it on the jeans and under to keep it safe and secure.

                          last edited by 18 Jul 2012, 15:38 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                            madmonday
                            Raw and Unwashed
                            Joined: 13 Oct 2009

                            love this thread, great job Deebo.

                            head high, middle finger higher

                            last edited by 18 Jul 2012, 15:45 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                              Deebo
                              Joined: 17 May 2012

                              @madmonday:

                              love this thread, great job Deebo.

                              Thanks MM!

                              last edited by 18 Jul 2012, 18:08 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • JCar2666J
                                JCar2666
                                Joined: 8 Apr 2012

                                Definitely under.  First pair of jeans that I've ever owned that gave me an option of doing so.  Would be a sin to cover up that thick leather patch if you ask me.

                                last edited by 18 Jul 2012, 22:16 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • bagley920B
                                  bagley920
                                  Joined: 10 Oct 2011

                                  If the jeans let me, I go under. They obviously wanted me to do it that way

                                  If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

                                  last edited by 19 Jul 2012, 01:09 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    madmonday
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                                    way to pull all those images adam313.  seems a valid argument could be made with a little bit of evidence to support it.

                                    despite anyone's personal reasons, i do love that folks are so serious about the way they wear & treat their goods

                                    head high, middle finger higher

                                    last edited by 19 Jul 2012, 01:26 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      ADDIC
                                      Joined: 26 Feb 2010

                                      when i first got my 634S, i wore it under. but then the stitching began coming off so its over now. plus a bit of evo is always good.

                                      once i get the stitching fixed and some decent evo, i'll go back to under.

                                      last edited by 19 Jul 2012, 03:55 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      • dinobarnesberlinD
                                        dinobarnesberlin
                                        啓蒙家
                                        Joined: 28 Mar 2020

                                        Ive been looking for this very thread for awhile, and today I found it.
                                        Ive alway been an OVER guy for as long as Ive worn pants.
                                        Even with certain models that allowed you to go under, for some reason I never liked the idea of being a billboard for companies with all their branding.
                                        That changed with my first pair of IH 666 21`s that I got two weeks ago.
                                        I am now wearing my belt UNDER for the simple fact that these patches are really like art.

                                        last edited by 20 Apr 2020, 10:18 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • neph93N
                                          neph93
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                                          Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                          ^same!

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                                          We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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