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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Live Reveal - Thursday 12th of June at 1700BST

    Belt over the patch or under the patch? Which do you prefer and why?

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    • Megatron1505M
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      Definitely under.

      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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        My belief is that there is nothing to be gained from using your thick animal skin patch as a sixth belt loop unless you have a huge waist and need the extra support for your belt.  In all probability, the combination of the super thick patch and the super thick belt will only result in the stitches eventually ripping/breaking, or the patch deforming.  Putting your belt over-top of the patch however, provides some spectacular evo:

        This is a similar situation to the cuffing debate.  Cuffing inevitably destroys your denim much faster than hemming to the proper length, regardless of your aesthetic preference.  But you people do what you want.  It's more money for H, G & P.

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        • DeeboD
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          Adam, those look awesome.

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          • elclintorE
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            Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there has ever been an issue with the stitching coming loose due to belt use.

            Geo

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              moi is most definitely an under ,,always have,,,kinda natural for me ,,,,

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                @elclintor:

                Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there has ever been an issue with the stitching coming loose due to belt use.

                @yo_mj:

                My SR patch is unstiching itself so I riveted it.

                Snagged on the corner of a table (while wearing a belt underneath the patch)

                @Giles:

                The patch.  The problem with the patch is that unlike a lot of other brands, the stitching is just at the top and the bottom (rather than all the way around), so that you can get your belt through the patch if that is what you like to do.  That coupled with the thickness of the leather imposes great stress at the 4 corners.

                The Polycotton that we sew the 634S with is and has alwayts been super strong.

                On some jeans where we are aiming for a more vintage look (666 and 634SR) we use cotton.  This does tend to give up quicker than Polycotton, but that's part of the vintage look we are trying to recreate.

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                • elclintorE
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                  Hmmm Interesting..

                  I figured all patches were sewn on with poly cotton thread.. It usually being a white thread and all.

                  Is that not the case? I've had 666S' and it sure did not look like cotton stitching on the patch..

                  Giles, could you clarify?

                  Geo

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                    Always Under. Never understood people who wore it over when they had the option to put it under. ROY Patches piss me off. Why put in all that work on the patch to have it covered with something?

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                      That seems contradictory unless you wear your shirts tucked in, 'cause the shirt will then cover the patch, so what's the point.

                      My point is evolution and longevity, so I wear my belt over-the-top.

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                        I like the belt under the patch so you can see it.

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                        • thewickettT
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                          Personally, when I tuck a shirt in I go over the patch.. otherwise it seems too gaudy. When things aren't tucked in I go over - it may not be seen often but when that awesome patch 'peeks out'… I haven't seen it personally but I'm assuming it looks sweet.

                          Not really concerned about durability because even if there are issues, I do happen to know how to use a needle and thread.

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                            Under-it just makes sense. And my belt is so damn thick it would require more effort to put it over, it just slides under naturally

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                            • GilesG
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                              @elclintor:

                              Hmmm Interesting..

                              I figured all patches were sewn on with poly cotton thread.. It usually being a white thread and all.

                              Is that not the case? I've had 666S' and it sure did not look like cotton stitching on the patch..

                              Giles, could you clarify?

                              We probably (though I am not 100% sure) now use Polycotton.  Haraki and I got really pissed off that the stitching on the patches were occasionally failing.  Haraki just told me he was going to fix it.  I think he did.

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              • thomasnunnallyT
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                                Absolutely only wear it under the patch.

                                Out with the new! In with the old!

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                                  Under of course. Wear with pride…letting weaker denims know 😉

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                                  • D97x7D
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                                    For me it depends on which belt I'm wearing that day, my brown 02 is slightly longer so goes over whereas the shorter black 02 goes under, simple as that!

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                                    • supersalamiS
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                                      why would anyone even wear it over? isn't the thick leather patch meant to be shown? and btw i don't even remove my belt … ever ... it's easier to just leave it on the jeans and under to keep it safe and secure.

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                                      • madmondayM
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                                        love this thread, great job Deebo.

                                        head high, middle finger higher

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                                        • DeeboD
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                                          @madmonday:

                                          love this thread, great job Deebo.

                                          Thanks MM!

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                                          • JCar2666J
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                                            Definitely under.  First pair of jeans that I've ever owned that gave me an option of doing so.  Would be a sin to cover up that thick leather patch if you ask me.

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