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    • J
      Jett129
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      I think people,myself included,would loose their minds over an XHSib Type III. I think that it’s been stated that the problem is sewing the sleeves to the body of the jacket. Someone correct me if I’m wrong about this.

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      • Paul9221P
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        SE just put out a 23oz OD Type III.  What's 2 more oz? 🙂

        Blanket-line all the things!!!

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          I think their saying the jacket becomes 23OZ after the over-dyeing process.

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          • The_Bourbon_Denim_GuyT
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            I mean, it’s a thing, people are sewing heavier weights than 25oz.  This is my Samurai 25oz (Top and bottom).

            Iron Heart is doing Heavy Weights better than anyone else in the business.  It isn’t like we are talking about something that has never been done, we are asking for a product that is already being made by lesser companies.

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              I’ve heard people say that when they’ve gotten heavy weight products made by other companies,that they don’t feel as heavy as IH. I have a pair of 21/23 made buy Old Blue,and there’s no comparison to the IH 21/23.

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              • neph93N
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                @@The_Bourbon_Denim_Guy:

                we are asking for a product that is already being made by lesser companies.

                I think the above is exactly tje point. Haraki won’t do a thing just because it is possible or because others are doing it. It has to meet his standards of quality and construction.

                As an example, N&F do 32oz denim but H won’t because heavy on its own isn’t the point. Practical performance and comfort would be compromised too much in his opinion. He wove the XHS to be heavy and functional.

                @Paul9221 The 25oz is a very different beast to the SE 23oz. It isn’t just about weight but also construction. The thickness of the XHS already creates very chunky seams. Double those at the shoulder and you have an issue.

                All that being said, never say never. The guy is an innovator and may well engineer a solution he is happy with in the future.

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                Are the same that burn crosses”

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                • GilesG
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                  @Jett129:

                  I think their saying the jacket becomes 23OZ after the over-dyeing process.

                  No, it's always 23oz, it's not the UHR.

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • DionD
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                    I've been dreaming about an XHS Type III for years and I'm also hoping H-san will find a way to attach the sleeves one day. It would definitely be a grail item for many.

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                    • Paul9221P
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                      I'm not in a hurry to get a 25oz type III from just anyone.

                      By happy accident, Iron Heart was my first high-end denim brand.  I mistakenly assumed that all brands were just as good but have been disappointed when trying most other brands.  Not to say they're all bad, but Iron Heart just sets the bar so dang high that I'm having to lower my expectations when I try others.

                      So, if IH makes a 25oz type III, I'm definitely going to pick it up, but if brand XYZ makes one, I'll wait.

                      Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                      • cjC
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                        I noticed that the 634-BKSP is coming out for FW19. Has there been any recent interest in a more standard 634S-SBG, for example? I would fancy something like that!

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                        • GilesG
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                          We sampled 634 in SBG and asked for retailer interest - got zero reaction I am afraid….

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            @Giles:

                            We sampled 634 in SBG and asked for retailer interest - got zero reaction I am afraid….

                            Dang, that's a shame. If there's ever another sample, make it a size 31 😉

                            If anything, I still have my eyes on the 634S-142bb, so not all is lost!

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                              I must mention the idea of a SBG CPO at least one a week in the office. As do I look at the IHSH-08sbg product page hoping it'll re-appear!

                              Keep fighting the good fight!

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                              • Stuart.TS
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                                @Giles as a manufacturer and distributor have you noticed a huge trend towards 'smarter' more fitted, and stealth detailing and hardware?

                                PBJ, Viberg, and any number of others are rapidly moving away from the traditional work wear designs that drew most of us to this type of aesthetic in the first place. I appreciate that times change, market demand shifts, but it feels as though high end, respectable denim brands are succumbing to a type of 'fashion gentrification'.

                                I am surely just an old git moaning, but the garments that we trawled through used clothing racks for in the 80s and 90s, the rockabilly and biker aesthetic that kept trad denim style alive is all but gone. Goodness bless Iron Heart, H, You, and your good crew. I can always be sure that each season has at least a few pieces that capture my imagination (and wallet).

                                I implore you, please keep flying that flag long and high!

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                                  It'll be interesting to see what effect,if any,Haraki's epic,potentially life changing,motorcycle trip out to Sturgis and back down the Pacific Coast Highway,has on his fashion sensibilities. I would think/hope it would reinforce the motorcycle aspect of IH. Time will tell.

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                                  • GilesG
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                                    I have.  My position is that fashions come and go, we'll keep doing what we do.  If we happen to be fashionable at any point, then that's just because fashion has decided that what we do is fashionable, we'll be out of fashion as quick as we were in it.  But, the cycle will repeat.

                                    This is where we can sell some stuff that may be seen as a little more edgy/smart/preppy:

                                    https://www.sondersupplies.com/

                                    We have other brands in the pipeline, so watch that space…

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    • GilesG
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                                      @Jett129:

                                      It'll be interesting to see what effect,if any,Haraki's epic,potentially life changing,motorcycle trip out to Sturgis and back down the Pacific Coast Highway,has on his fashion sensibilities. I would think/hope it would reinforce the motorcycle aspect of IH. Time will tell.

                                      He told me he would come back a changed man.  I told him, he better not  😃

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                        Just let us know if we need to start addressing him as Haruki…...

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                                          @Giles:

                                          @Jett129:

                                          It'll be interesting to see what effect,if any,Haraki's epic,potentially life changing,motorcycle trip out to Sturgis and back down the Pacific Coast Highway,has on his fashion sensibilities. I would think/hope it would reinforce the motorcycle aspect of IH. Time will tell.

                                          He told me he would come back a changed man.  I told him, he better not  😃

                                          .  I saw that exchange,and as someone who has done similar motorcycle trips,I think the change is inevitable.

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                                            I’m sure it has been mentioned several times already, but I wish Iron Heart would come out with a 25oz denim jacket.  I’m a huge fan of my IH-666-XHS and IH-526V-XHS [emoji123].  I’ve asked in the past, and was always told that “it is too heavy to do the stitching for the sleeves”, but I have 25oz jackets from other companies, like my Samurai S551XX25OZ-20TH Anniversary Type I.  There is without a doubt a market here.  Maybe even do a test run with pre-orders only and eliminate all risk [emoji2369].

                                            Take it a step further….... add the ultra heavy flannel material as a liner, and a custom Good Art Pocket Snap.  I will throw all my money at you [emoji1787][emoji119][emoji158]

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                                            For you and anyone else asking for 25oz jackets - what's the appeal? 21 oz is already very heavy and IH has produced 23 oz outerwear as others have mentioned. Do you actually notice a difference or do you just like knowing your jacket is heavier than others?  I completely understand not wanting flimsy 10-12 oz pants/jackets, but part of me feels like the obsession w/ super heavyweight stuff is like a woman who keeps getting the size of her fake jugs increased because she's never satisfied with their size. Does anyone really want or need ZZZ tits?

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