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    neph93
    見習いボス
    Joined: 18 Aug 2014

    I agree with pretty much that whole discussion @mclaincausey

    Unfortunately, we’re not able to decide the measures we would ideally employ, as not every variable is coded into the current platform. The current solution is more of a workaround than anything else and and the primary purpose is to confound scam and spam posting. Encouraging (no one is forcing anyone or anything), posting and interaction is hopefully a positive side effect.

    “Some of those that work forces
    Are the same that burn crosses”

    • Virginia Woolf
    last edited by 22 Nov 2022, 19:46 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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      mclaincausey
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      Joined: 12 Apr 2013

      Very fair, @neph93 , and it shouldn't be either too arbitrary or too burdensome for you mods

      Think it, be it.

      last edited by 22 Nov 2022, 20:06 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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        Chap
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        Joined: 24 May 2016

        @jfk1117:

        …

        Certainly can understand the desire for wanting people to be active members of the community in order to gain access to that section of the forum. ...

        No, sorry but that's not the aim. It's about getting rid of 'members' thinking this is a free of cost selling platform for their shit.

        God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

        last edited by 22 Nov 2022, 20:12 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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          mclaincausey
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          Joined: 12 Apr 2013

          But…. isn't it? I mean as long as they aren't scamming people, that's exactly what this forum has always provided...

          Think it, be it.

          last edited by 22 Nov 2022, 20:18 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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            Chap
            見習いボス
            Joined: 24 May 2016

            @mclaincausey:

            But…. isn't it? I mean as long as they aren't scamming people, that's exactly what this forum has always provided...

            Yep exactly, it is and it should be… but not for those using it as a selling-only tool, selling things that are not related to the idea of the forum and scamming people.

            God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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              neph93
              見習いボス
              Joined: 18 Aug 2014

              @mclaincausey:

              But…. isn't it? I mean as long as they aren't scamming people, that's exactly what this forum has always provided...

              The Marketplace is not the forum’s raison d’être. It’s an extension of the forum itself.  There has been a recent rise in people treating it as a free e-bay, including people selling items entirely unrelated to IH, without any apparent interest in the brand or related products. This is what @Chap is referring to, and one of the things we consider “spam”.

              “Some of those that work forces
              Are the same that burn crosses”

              • Virginia Woolf
              last edited by 22 Nov 2022, 20:31 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                STR777
                Raw and Unwashed
                Joined: 12 Jul 2022

                I have had great interactions with everyone I've bought from here and also enjoy reading through other posts.

                This may give me the little push I needed to start participating more. You have a great forum here and I look forward to becoming more active on it.

                last edited by 23 Nov 2022, 06:53 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                  neph93
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                  Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                  @STR777:

                  This may give me the little push I needed to start participating more. You have a great forum here and I look forward to becoming more active on it.

                  Thanks for the response. For you and any others, here are a few places to start with neutral, stress free posting…

                  • Who are you? What do you do? Why are you here? (Not as existential as it sounds)
                    https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2.0

                  • Where you @?
                    https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=419.0

                  • Because everyone has questions, right?
                    https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=10393.0

                  • Collectors Corner
                    https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?board=49.0

                  • I guarantee everyone will find something of interest here:
                    https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?board=4.0

                  For those wanting affirmation, or just to show off (something we encourage), there’s this, arguably the heart of the forum. We are POSITIVE and honest here. This isn’t Reddit [emoji6]

                  https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=16914.0

                  “Some of those that work forces
                  Are the same that burn crosses”

                  • Virginia Woolf
                  last edited by 23 Nov 2022, 09:26 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    scarfmace
                    Haraki san Expert
                    Joined: 20 Feb 2015

                    @jordanscollected:

                    FWIW, i think many people people on here would like to ban themselves from browsing the buy/sell forum. The "impulse steal of deal" is real frickin strong on there

                    guilty  😃

                    "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."

                    last edited by 23 Nov 2022, 12:39 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                      boogieshafer
                      Joined: 30 Jul 2021

                      while i understand the reasoning on this policy i'm not a fan

                      i've made several purchases on this site over the year and half since i discovered it but in all honesty clothing is something i wear and use not something i like to socialize/chat about so i'm well below the 20 post threshold.

                      in fact this is probably my first post

                      last edited by 23 Nov 2022, 17:19 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        neph93
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                        Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                        @boogieshafer:

                        while i understand the reasoning on this policy i'm not a fan

                        i've made several purchases on this site over the year and half since i discovered it but in all honesty clothing is something i wear and use not something i like to socialize/chat about so i'm well below the 20 post threshold.

                        in fact this is probably my first post

                        Totally understand that this would negatively affect some people that way. It is an unfortunate side effect.

                        While you are most welcome here, eBay, Grailed etc. are dedicated to buying and selling and have a good selection of similar items. They also have their share of problems with bad faith sellers and buyers, but they also have software, protocols and manpower to deal with it. We aren’t about that and never will be.

                        We are about chatting and socialising first and aftermarket business comes a way down the list. We also need to tackle the spam/scam problem in as simple a way as possible.

                        “Some of those that work forces
                        Are the same that burn crosses”

                        • Virginia Woolf
                        last edited by 23 Nov 2022, 17:47 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                          boogieshafer
                          Joined: 30 Jul 2021

                          "directly as possible" would be focusing directly on spammers and scammers instead of just blocking out legitimate folks with low post counts from one specific part of this site. i get that most of the forums on the site are conversation focused, and you may want that, but i'm personally on this forum BECAUSE OF THE MARKETPLACE, not to talk about other things…its first on my list even if it isnt on yours

                          i'm well aware there are other places that buy and sell, but i'm also aware that many items only get listed here as folks would rather avoid extra fees/etc. as i've said, i've made many purchases on this marketplace (more than my post count in fact).

                          bottom line is i personally come here to the marketplace to buy items (i normally give away things when i'm done with them instead of selling), and you are only limiting your selling opportunities by shutting out folks who are less conversational in the rest of your clubhouse

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                            neph93
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                            Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                            @boogieshafer:

                            "directly as possible" would be focusing directly on spammers and scammers instead of just blocking out legitimate folks with low post counts from one specific part of this site.

                            This method is the most direct and effective we have available to us. This is not a professional sales platform. It is a relatively antiquitated SoMe v.1 piece of free software for an in-house brand forum. There’s no legal team, no bots. There are a couple of voluntary mods and IHUK staff.

                            As has been stated on this thread the method is not at all unusual on other similar forums, for the same reasons.

                            So it is a shame you feel personally impacted. But this is a community, not free one stop shop for secondhand clothing, regardless of how you view it.

                            You’ll make your 20 posts (no spam, follow guidelines), and go back to lurking, or you won’t.

                            “Some of those that work forces
                            Are the same that burn crosses”

                            • Virginia Woolf
                            last edited by 23 Nov 2022, 19:07 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                              boogieshafer
                              Joined: 30 Jul 2021

                              got it

                              last edited by 23 Nov 2022, 19:13 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                goosehd
                                Mod Squad
                                Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                                @boogieshafer You have made several constructive positive posts to the forum today and the feedback is valued.  In doing so, you have just about reached the halfway point to being able to access the buy/sell feature again.

                                This kind of feedback strengthens us as a community and gives us ideas on how to make the forum better for everyone in the future.

                                It is an inconvenience, but in your own way you have made us stronger.

                                Thank you!

                                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

                                last edited by 23 Nov 2022, 19:21 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  STR777
                                  Raw and Unwashed
                                  Joined: 12 Jul 2022

                                  @neph93:

                                  @STR777:

                                  This may give me the little push I needed to start participating more. You have a great forum here and I look forward to becoming more active on it.

                                  Thanks for the response. For you and any others, here are a few places to start with neutral, stress free posting…

                                  • Who are you? What do you do? Why are you here? (Not as existential as it sounds)
                                    https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2.0

                                  • Where you @?
                                    https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=419.0

                                  • Because everyone has questions, right?
                                    https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=10393.0

                                  • Collectors Corner
                                    https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?board=49.0

                                  • I guarantee everyone will find something of interest here:
                                    https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?board=4.0

                                  For those wanting affirmation, or just to show off (something we encourage), there’s this, arguably the heart of the forum. We are POSITIVE and honest here. This isn’t Reddit [emoji6]

                                  https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=16914.0

                                  Thanks for the tips on these threads, appreciate it!

                                  last edited by 23 Nov 2022, 20:36 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    Seul
                                    Joined: 24 Nov 2009

                                    @neph93:

                                    You’ll make your 20 posts (no spam, follow guidelines), and go back to lurking, or you won’t.

                                    This should count to my necessary 20.

                                    last edited by 25 Nov 2022, 09:03 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      neph93
                                      見習いボス
                                      Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                      @Seul:

                                      @neph93:

                                      You’ll make your 20 posts (no spam, follow guidelines), and go back to lurking, or you won’t.

                                      This should count to my necessary 20.

                                      [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

                                      There are supercomputers buried near the worlds core trying to keep track of your activity here from five years ago.

                                      “Some of those that work forces
                                      Are the same that burn crosses”

                                      • Virginia Woolf
                                      last edited by 25 Nov 2022, 13:26 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        BADMOJO
                                        Raw and Unwashed
                                        Joined: 19 Jan 2022

                                        so…  I love IH but don't really know what I am supposed to post about to get to 20 posts...

                                        last edited by 25 Nov 2022, 19:03 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          neph93
                                          見習いボス
                                          Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                          I’m 50 next year… also, I don’t think this place has that many boasters. It’s more about a shared interest in how we wear what we wear.

                                          But to answer your question, there’s plenty of hobby threads, and other discissions. And if being social isn’t your thing then you have Grailed and eBay to sell your stuff. You can still come here for research and info.

                                          “Some of those that work forces
                                          Are the same that burn crosses”

                                          • Virginia Woolf
                                          last edited by 25 Nov 2022, 19:07 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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