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    • neph93N
      neph93
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      @boogieshafer:

      while i understand the reasoning on this policy i'm not a fan

      i've made several purchases on this site over the year and half since i discovered it but in all honesty clothing is something i wear and use not something i like to socialize/chat about so i'm well below the 20 post threshold.

      in fact this is probably my first post

      Totally understand that this would negatively affect some people that way. It is an unfortunate side effect.

      While you are most welcome here, eBay, Grailed etc. are dedicated to buying and selling and have a good selection of similar items. They also have their share of problems with bad faith sellers and buyers, but they also have software, protocols and manpower to deal with it. We aren’t about that and never will be.

      We are about chatting and socialising first and aftermarket business comes a way down the list. We also need to tackle the spam/scam problem in as simple a way as possible.

      «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
      We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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        "directly as possible" would be focusing directly on spammers and scammers instead of just blocking out legitimate folks with low post counts from one specific part of this site. i get that most of the forums on the site are conversation focused, and you may want that, but i'm personally on this forum BECAUSE OF THE MARKETPLACE, not to talk about other things…its first on my list even if it isnt on yours

        i'm well aware there are other places that buy and sell, but i'm also aware that many items only get listed here as folks would rather avoid extra fees/etc. as i've said, i've made many purchases on this marketplace (more than my post count in fact).

        bottom line is i personally come here to the marketplace to buy items (i normally give away things when i'm done with them instead of selling), and you are only limiting your selling opportunities by shutting out folks who are less conversational in the rest of your clubhouse

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        • neph93N
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          @boogieshafer:

          "directly as possible" would be focusing directly on spammers and scammers instead of just blocking out legitimate folks with low post counts from one specific part of this site.

          This method is the most direct and effective we have available to us. This is not a professional sales platform. It is a relatively antiquitated SoMe v.1 piece of free software for an in-house brand forum. There’s no legal team, no bots. There are a couple of voluntary mods and IHUK staff.

          As has been stated on this thread the method is not at all unusual on other similar forums, for the same reasons.

          So it is a shame you feel personally impacted. But this is a community, not free one stop shop for secondhand clothing, regardless of how you view it.

          You’ll make your 20 posts (no spam, follow guidelines), and go back to lurking, or you won’t.

          «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
          We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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            got it

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            • goosehdG
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              @boogieshafer You have made several constructive positive posts to the forum today and the feedback is valued.  In doing so, you have just about reached the halfway point to being able to access the buy/sell feature again.

              This kind of feedback strengthens us as a community and gives us ideas on how to make the forum better for everyone in the future.

              It is an inconvenience, but in your own way you have made us stronger.

              Thank you!

              "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                STR777
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                @neph93:

                @STR777:

                This may give me the little push I needed to start participating more. You have a great forum here and I look forward to becoming more active on it.

                Thanks for the response. For you and any others, here are a few places to start with neutral, stress free posting…

                • Who are you? What do you do? Why are you here? (Not as existential as it sounds)
                  https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2.0

                • Where you @?
                  https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=419.0

                • Because everyone has questions, right?
                  https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=10393.0

                • Collectors Corner
                  https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?board=49.0

                • I guarantee everyone will find something of interest here:
                  https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?board=4.0

                For those wanting affirmation, or just to show off (something we encourage), there’s this, arguably the heart of the forum. We are POSITIVE and honest here. This isn’t Reddit [emoji6]

                https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=16914.0

                Thanks for the tips on these threads, appreciate it!

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                • SeulS
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                  @neph93:

                  You’ll make your 20 posts (no spam, follow guidelines), and go back to lurking, or you won’t.

                  This should count to my necessary 20.

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                  • neph93N
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                    @Seul:

                    @neph93:

                    You’ll make your 20 posts (no spam, follow guidelines), and go back to lurking, or you won’t.

                    This should count to my necessary 20.

                    [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

                    There are supercomputers buried near the worlds core trying to keep track of your activity here from five years ago.

                    «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                    We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                      BADMOJO
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                      so…  I love IH but don't really know what I am supposed to post about to get to 20 posts...

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                      • neph93N
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                        I’m 50 next year… also, I don’t think this place has that many boasters. It’s more about a shared interest in how we wear what we wear.

                        But to answer your question, there’s plenty of hobby threads, and other discissions. And if being social isn’t your thing then you have Grailed and eBay to sell your stuff. You can still come here for research and info.

                        «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                        We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

                        • Dame Vera Lynn
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                        • GilesG
                          Giles
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                          Old? Try being 65…...

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            BADMOJO
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                            I get guys that like the community thing, I do

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                            • neph93N
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                              I’m sorry you feel like you’re being penalised. We don’t really feel that being expected to contribute a little is a an unreasonable ask for using the marketplace.

                              The reasons for this move have been explained here already and are about the community, not the individual. With all due respect, people who use the forum purely for buying and selling offer little value to the community, so are not the forum’s primary concern.

                              Thank you for airing your point of view though. We are always open to ideas, and this may not be permanent. We will be moving to a new platform soon which may make dealing with the scam/spam problem easier. In which case the threshold will likely be removed.

                              «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                              We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                              • MattM
                                Matt
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                                @Giles:

                                Old? Try being 65…...

                                Lots of people try, it’s just so hard to make it that far.  👴 🪦

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                                • neph93N
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                                  @Matt:

                                  @Giles:

                                  Old? Try being 65…...

                                  Lots of people try, it’s just so hard to make it that far.  [emoji69] 🪦

                                  «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                  We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                  • KasiK
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                                    Been busy around the house lately
                                    Catching up

                                    20 post. Is far to low..

                                    No matter what’s happened they
                                    Always finds ways around.

                                    Break the limits

                                    Members ranks is very important

                                    In my opinion it’s help.

                                    New members with 20 post can still
                                    spam it..

                                    Regular members knows who, who

                                    Got be more to it…

                                    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                                    Not an admin. Not a mod. But the guy whose fits turn heads and whose name comes up when people ask, “how should this piece fit?” 🖕

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                                    • seawolfS
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                                      @mclaincausey:

                                      If the new forum supports badging, when someone is repped as a Hero after a forum transaction, a badge would be handy.

                                      They could charge $8 for a badge!  ??? Too soon?

                                      “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                                      @zeebeeleather

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                                      • neph93N
                                        neph93
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                                        @seawolf:

                                        @mclaincausey:

                                        If the new forum supports badging, when someone is repped as a Hero after a forum transaction, a badge would be handy.

                                        They could charge $8 for a badge!  ??? Too soon?

                                        Would that go straight to the mods?  😉

                                        «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                        We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                          nectarsplenty
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                                          Well, this effects me greatly. Going to have to start contributing instead of lurking now.

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                                          • MattM
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                                            This all seems fairly straightforward to me.  The forum does not drive any type of income or revenue for IH, it was a perk for enthusiasts who wanted to gather and participate in a community. There’s no responsibility on the part of IH to provide the forum at all, much less a marketplace.  The forum helps IH stand out in the industry by creating a kinship among its fans and customers.  IMO the MP should be viewed as a benefit for active and invested forum members.  If all you want to do is sell and buy stuff, there are plenty of other platforms where you can do just that.  This place is for the rest of us and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with our wanting to keep it exclusive. It’s not like we’re trying to turn away people who want to use the forum as it’s intended.

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