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    Giles
    IHUK Crew
    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

    We dont really mind what gets sold here (I've sold a PC in the past), what we do mind is:

    1. People ontributing nothing to the community.  The marketplace is a resource that we created to benefit our members, never did we dream that it would become a place where people would just come to sell stuff.  Yes, I am more than happy to be called naive….
    2. Scammers/fraudsters ripping off our members

    We are not a professional sales site, we do not have staff whose job it is to monitor sales, we do not have software to help us identify frauds, and we get pulled in to sort shit out between sellers and buyers, and if a member gets ripped off we get the blame and the ripped-off party leaves with a bad taste in their mouth....

    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      neph93
      見習いボス
      Joined: 18 Aug 2014

      The following has been stated before in the thread but I’m willing to repeat myself as I realise people may not make the effort to read.

      1. This is a measure to disrupt scammers and spammers.
      2. It is a workaround which affects a minority of people who aren’t part of the community but use the forum for one of its secondary functions. That is acceptable to us (and the majority of the community).
      3. This forum is run on outdated software by a handful of mods and IHUK employees who all have day jobs. The measures you suggest would take advanced software or a dedicated round then clock team to implement.
      4. This measure is not forever.

      “Some of those that work forces
      Are the same that burn crosses”

      • Virginia Woolf
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        neph93
        見習いボス
        Joined: 18 Aug 2014

        Double whammy!

        “Some of those that work forces
        Are the same that burn crosses”

        • Virginia Woolf
        last edited by 2 Dec 2022, 09:56 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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          Pufton
          Joined: 17 Feb 2021

          Two “disagreements “.
          And I totally accept what you are saying.
          It’s a system based on trust.
          Sadly trust sometimes gets abused.

          On the plus side….. Another post  😉

          last edited by 12 Feb 2022, 10:10 2 Dec 2022, 10:07 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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            neph93
            見習いボス
            Joined: 18 Aug 2014

            Not so much disagreements as repetitions of the reasons why it is like it is. Two rebuttals, if you will.

            @Pufton:

            On the plus side….. Another post  😉

            Just look what interacting with the community gets you! [emoji23] (also, no shit-posting [emoji6])

            “Some of those that work forces
            Are the same that burn crosses”

            • Virginia Woolf
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              bunbut
              Haraki san Student
              Joined: 17 Dec 2021

              I thought it always personal buy and sell at your own risk.  I don't see how IH responsible for fraud or unhappy transactions and pull them in.
              It is good IH steps in and help prevent frauds and thank you.

              last edited by 2 Dec 2022, 15:08 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                sabergirl
                見習いボス
                Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                I don’t think they feel responsible, it’s just utterly and completely annoying the amount of spammy scams there are.

                Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                  Matt
                  見習いボス
                  Joined: 4 Oct 2011

                  Remember when everyone got along and we just chatted civilly about Covid?  Those were the good old days.

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                    neph93
                    見習いボス
                    Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                    @Matt:

                    Remember when everyone got along and we just chatted civilly about Covid?

                    Ugh…

                    “Some of those that work forces
                    Are the same that burn crosses”

                    • Virginia Woolf
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                      Kasi
                      見習いボス
                      Joined: 9 Oct 2014

                      @Matt:

                      Remember when everyone got along and we just chatted civilly about Covid?  Those were the good old days.

                      You wouldn’t leave me alone.

                      Am trying  get rid of you  😃 😃 😃

                      The world's insane
                      While you drink champagne
                      And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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                        Kasi
                        見習いボス
                        Joined: 9 Oct 2014

                        Can see member posting randomly

                        Open up the market..

                        Name I never come across.

                        The world's insane
                        While you drink champagne
                        And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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                          Giles
                          IHUK Crew
                          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                          @bunbut:

                          I thought it always personal buy and sell at your own risk.  I don't see how IH responsible for fraud or unhappy transactions and pull them in.
                          It is good IH steps in and help prevent frauds and thank you.

                          Because there are a lot of people out there who when things don't go right, rattle our cage….....Want to see my inbox?

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            Matt
                            見習いボス
                            Joined: 4 Oct 2011

                            Boy do I? :-\

                            last edited by 2 Dec 2022, 16:31 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                              Bored In Breck
                              Raw and Unwashed
                              Joined: 24 Nov 2020

                              I really try to not have an online presence anywhere.  Obviously, this is very hard to achieve 100% as the interwebs must be used as a tool in some ways.  Case in point, I regularly use this forum as a means for research (utilizing the experiences, opinions, and knowledge of members who are willing to share through posts), creative ideas, entertainment, and only once to purchase an item.  I did browse the sales section often out of curiosity.  I have my favorite topics that I go to a few times a week, I guess that is why it took me a minute to figure out what happened to the member sales section.

                              While I don't disagree that measures need to be made to combat scammers, it does bum me out that I am now left feeling less of a part of this great community.  I also understand that being an observer and information gatherer can be looked at as a non-contributor.

                              Whether or not the community agrees with me, I feel that I am an important piece to the puzzle. I almost exclusively purchase IH (mainly through local and US based retailers), I regurlarly speak to my choice of clothing excitedly to whomever is listening, and I consume the knowledge delivered here.

                              Just my long winded two cents! Perhaps this is is just written as a means to crawl to 20…...I'll get there.

                              Do you see what happens when you find a stanger in the Alps!?! - Walter Sobchak (TV Edit)

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                                neph93
                                見習いボス
                                Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                @Bored:

                                .  I also understand that being an observer and information gatherer can be looked at as a non-contributor.

                                I regurlarly speak to my choice of clothing excitedly to whomever is listening, and I consume the knowledge delivered here.

                                Happily you still have access to 99% of the forum in the meantime. Thanks for your input.

                                “Some of those that work forces
                                Are the same that burn crosses”

                                • Virginia Woolf
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                                  Oaktavia
                                  見習いボス
                                  Joined: 12 Jun 2019

                                  @Bored:

                                  Perhaps this is is just written as a means to crawl to 20…...I'll get there.

                                  You'll be there in no time at all  😎

                                  IG: electricindigowizard

                                  "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

                                  WTB: IHJ-32 - XL/XXL

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                                    goosehd
                                    Mod Squad
                                    Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                                    Shit posting and necroposting are not good ways to be respected citizens of the community.  Please try and put some effort into your posts.

                                    Blatant shit posting and/or necroposting will get you banned!!!

                                    "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

                                    last edited by 2 Dec 2022, 21:57 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      sabergirl
                                      見習いボス
                                      Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                                      What do you mean by necroposting? Sometimes bumping a really old thread is the best way to continue a dialogue. For extinct items, for example…

                                      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                                      last edited by 2 Dec 2022, 22:12 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        goosehd
                                        Mod Squad
                                        Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                                        Really good question:  necroposting old dormant threads just to reach 20 posts is what I’m currently addressing.  Some of the last 20 posts have been topics not touched since 2017.

                                        I don’t mind bringing up old product threads if the discussion is interesting or insightful, but bringing up what fragrances you wear for the sake of reaching 20 posts is pushing it.  Especially if it’s a list just to make a post.  If some effort was put into a post addressing the (who, what, when, where, why, how) would get a little more leniency.

                                        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

                                        last edited by 2 Dec 2022, 22:21 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          neph93
                                          見習いボス
                                          Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                          Putting a modicum of effort into your shitposting does not remove the shit.

                                          “Some of those that work forces
                                          Are the same that burn crosses”

                                          • Virginia Woolf
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