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    • pechelmanP
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      @Matt:

      Ok.  Really hard to say then.  If you aren’t feeling it now then your first impression may be the right one for you.  The 634 is probably what you want just based on what you’ve shared so far.  You lose the taper but you’d lose that anyway by getting them hemmed to wear with no cuff.

      Thanks, @Matt. Again, appreciate the insight, help, and advice. While I can't really take an "in-the-wild" shot at the moment due to the weather outside and wanting to keep these clean, I did have my wife take a few more photos with cuffs that are off the ground and feet.

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      • MattM
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        That actually is better in my opinion.  I think they could work for you after you have a chance to break them in some.  A wash or soak could also help.  You could wear them for a bit and sell them on the forum later if you never come around to them.  Of course if they’re still returnable then you could just start over.  It seems like you just need less room through the thigh.  Finding your perfect fit can be hard.  I’ve gone through quite a few different pairs of 666 then 777 and now 888 which I’m currently favoring.  Trial and error if you have the means.  Also keep in mind that moving from one model to another requires an adjustment period to get used to a different fit.  They could feel “off” at first after switching but sometimes you just need to get used to the differences.

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        • GilesG
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          If you think we can sell them as new, we'll take them back.  So, ask yourself this, if you received them as a new pair of jeans would you be happy or pissed off with us?  If you would be pissed off, then the answer is no. We can't risk being seen as unethical…  And honestly, if you've started to stretch the waist out, they don't sound new.....

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          • MattM
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            You could always join our grassroots guerrilla movement to bring back the Beatle Buster though we still haven’t been able to make any headway there.  :-\

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            • pechelmanP
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              @goosehd:

              @pechelman Could you put on your 34 ONI 902ZR jeans and do the same pictures as your previous post?  Someone may be able to find a fit similar IH jean based upon your preference for fit based on the Oni’s that you like.

              Long shot but….

              Last one I can do for today, the photographer and I are getting antsy to start our day.
              The 902's are a lot harder to get good photos, so I cranked up exposure and whatnot. These are definitely on the relaxed side of what I want, but are extremely comfortable and dont pull anywhere when I move, sit, squat, etc. I would rather it be a little looser than constantly have to adjust my pants. I probably should have removed things from my pockets and the belt, but oh well, gives a realistic view. Actual measurements (as best as I can recollect)  after ~60 wears, no washes, unsoaked, straight from the store otherwise, are as follows;

              Waist: 36"
              Thigh: 13.25
              F.Rise: 12.0
              R.Rise: 16.5
              Knee: 9.5
              Hem: 8.5

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              • pechelmanP
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                @Giles:

                If you think we can sell them as new, we'll take them back.  So, ask yourself this, if you received them as a new pair of jeans would you be happy or pissed off with us?  If you would be pissed off, then the answer is no. We can't risk being seen as unethical…  And honestly, if you've started to stretch the waist out, they don't sound new.....

                Thanks, Giles. What shocked me is how fast this changed from ~15-30 mins of wear around the house. I could guess that if these were in my local denim store that they'd see this much stretch from a few customers trying them on and still be sold as new. Certainly these arent as "crisp"? as when I opened them, but they arent exactly sweat-pant broken in either. I'm tyring to be as transparent as possible here as well, so not trying to pull anything on anyone.

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                • GilesG
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                  Send a mail to @Graham at shop@ironheart.co.uk…..

                  But the simple test is.  Would you be happy to receive these as new jeans if they dropped through your door from an online store?

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • pechelmanP
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                    @Giles:

                    Send a mail to @Graham at shop@ironheart.co.uk…..

                    But the simple test is.  Would you be happy to receive these as new jeans if they dropped through your door from an online store?

                    10-4, thanks. Will address an email to Graham via the contact email address.

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                    • goosehdG
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                      To be honest, I don’t see a lot of difference between the 888’s and the Oni’s.  What specifically bugs you about them?  (I may have missed it in a previous reply).

                      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                      • MattM
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                        @goosehd:

                        To be honest, I don’t see a lot of difference between the 888’s and the Oni’s.  What specifically bugs you about them?  (I may have missed it in a previous reply).

                        Agreed.  The differences I see are between worn/washed/broken in jeans and new ones.

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                        • KasiK
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                          I had this problem with the 777… I am a size 34 in the heavy weight.

                          As they arrive 34 was to big for… straight away size down. Fit perfectly

                          I think the confusion is this is a thinner fabric works differently..

                          Also looking at them fit of 888, you got the wrong fit, maybe 666 or 777 would have work better for you.

                          Also I am rocking the 888 pronto cut… 777, 666 and 555

                          In my opinion 666 has won for me.

                          Always something not right either you got the wrong or size..

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                          • pechelmanP
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                            The differences that I'm noticing are hard to pickup in the photos and also why I wasnt really sure about these in the first place to come and ask for help here.

                            On the 888's, there's enough fabric to grab a literal handful of fabric on the seat that then pulls in the thighs and hips. It's not terrible but this isnt the case on the onis despite it looking very similar. Plainly said, it's the extra material in the seat and hips. The excess is enough that they sort of make noticeable noise when walking around the house as the folds move past each other.

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                            • KasiK
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                              34 ONI 902ZR

                              Looks more 555 to me rather than 888

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                              And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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                              • MattM
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                                555 could work. It’s the one fit I’ve never tried though so I couldn’t say for sure.

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                                • goosehdG
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                                  @Matt:

                                  You could always join our grassroots guerrilla movement to bring back the Beatle Buster though we still haven’t been able to make any headway there.  :-\

                                  Love the BB’s.  Still my favourite cut!!

                                  "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                  • NikN
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                                    I think they look great @pechelman I vote keep em. They look comfortable.

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                                    • pechelmanP
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                                      I've not considered the 555s after trying tag 34 no-lots that had a 12.7 thigh and 9.0 knee that were too tight for me. I need a little extra in the thigh for cell and wallet as I carry them in my front pockets. The knee was just uncomfortable and restricting movement.

                                      Appreciate the suggestions. Hopefully we haven't derailed this thread too much.

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                                      • neph93N
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                                        @Matt:

                                        You could always join our conservative old fart's movement to bring back the Beatle Buster…

                                        Fixed

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                                        • goosehdG
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                                          😃 True, so very true.

                                          "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                          • neph93N
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                                            @goosehd:

                                            😃 True, so very true.

                                            I count myself there, as you may have guessed.

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