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    IH-1955S-18 - 18oz Vintage Selvedge Denim "1955" Vintage Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo

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    • John1968-75J
      John1968-75
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      The 1955 cut in 18oz is the Grail.
      Definitely getting a pair.

      JC

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      • W
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        How does this 18oz fabric compare to the 21oz or 14oz in terms of pliability, stretch, fades, etc?

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        • AdamJA
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          @welfare_burrito these are my 2 cents so other opinions may vary

          pliability - crunchier at the start than 21/14oz but soften up pretty quickly

          stretch - similar to the other two, depends on how much pressure you subject the denim over time but 1" approx in the waist to be expected

          fades - depends on how often you wear, how much you wash. Some of the coolest fades we've seen are 18oz. You can view them here

          The devil is in the detail..

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          • Luke_is_backL
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            @Shane-B Are you considering getting these jeans? They will be a huge hit😃

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            • Shane BS
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              @Luke_is_back No, I didn't order these jeans the last time they were available for pre-order.

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              • Shane BS
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                @Luke_is_back but please send me an mail to info@ironheartgermany.com, maybe I can arrange you one size.

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                • Luke_is_backL
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                  @Shane-B Ive send you an email

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                  • S
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                    @AdamJ said in IH-1955S-18 - 18oz Vintage Selvedge Denim "1955" Vintage Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo:

                    @welfare_burrito these are my 2 cents so other opinions may vary

                    pliability - crunchier at the start than 21/14oz but soften up pretty quickly

                    stretch - similar to the other two, depends on how much pressure you subject the denim over time but 1" approx in the waist to be expected

                    fades - depends on how often you wear, how much you wash. Some of the coolest fades we've seen are 18oz. You can view them here

                    What about the toughness and durability aspect? Does being looser woven mean they are flimsier than the 21 or 14oz? (Flimsy being a relative term as I'm sure as jeans, and Iron Heart no less, they are very tough in the grand scheme of things)

                    By analogy, I believe slubby fabric is less strong and durable than the same fabric, woven with the same thick yarns, just regular and not slub

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                    • AdamJA
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                      @SuitOfUHF toughness/durability is a bit difficult to quantify because it entirely depends on what you're doing. If you're on a building site for example you may find the heavier denim is better suited.

                      But with 14-18oz denim I doubt there is much in it!

                      The devil is in the detail..

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                      • S
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                        @AdamJ Well you have to control for the user's activity in order to have an apples-to-apples comparison. I just wanted to know if the looser vintage weave and construction makes for a weaker fabric, compared to Iron Heart's regular fare

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                        • GilesG
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                          I wear every denim for a year (almost every day, and whatever I do) when it is first released. All last about a year before they start giving up on me......

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          • jfive67J
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                            @SuitOfUHF

                            Some people have actually observed the contrary. Heavier fabrics can abrade more at the crotch and have blowouts earlier than expected.

                            I think cut matters more for general durability than fabric. Generally none of my 1955s have broken down versus heavyweight denim in slimmer cuts where crotch needed repair out after about a year

                            Same thing goes for suits that I have. I’ve got some super 140 suits with relaxed cuts that have outlasted flannels that were on the tighter side


                            Life's for living!

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                            • steelworkerS
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                              To me it’s about sizing. Wear jeans like they’re painted on & hey presto! Blowout in no time.

                              Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                              Well, I have others.

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                              • S
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                                @jfive67 Tight areas are sure to break down faster. Not really a problem for me as I wouldn't buy a pair if it bites me anywhere. (Incidentally I'm a big believer in the utility of crotch gussets, but I don't need to get on my soapbox here)

                                Maybe I'll try a slightly different question: Do you think Iron Heart stands out with its 18oz vintage as much as it does with the 21oz? Considering there are a ton of Japanese repro brands specializing in "vintage" denims, which I just have to point out cost ~$100 less than IH? (Yes I'm aware this is the IH forum, so maybe I can also try this question in more neutral places)

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                                • goosehdG
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                                  @SuitOfUHF I have worn the 18oz for years and it is one of my favourites. I tend to prefer the 16oz slub, 17oz natural, and the 18oz vintage over the heavier denims that IH has to offer, but that’s me. We also have members here who only like to wear 21oz and up. That is the beauty of this brand in that there are denim’s here for everyone.

                                  Does the 18oz stand out? For me yes and others no. Does the 21oz? Yes and probably the most purchased denim that IH offers and really is one of the first that was offered.

                                  You are on a IH forum so most of the responses will have an inherent bias in their responses. For more neutral unbiased responses, you probably will have to ask elsewhere. Although, we all admit that we have other manufacturers that we like and not really a secret. Many of those brands have quite active threads discussing those likes. Orslow, Ship John, Samurai, etc. Other Brands and Shops

                                  Is one better than another…

                                  Here’s why I like IH: I know what I’m buying, how it fits, and how durable it is. The customer service from the staff at IHUK is hands down one of the best. When there is an issue, I am able to contact them to answer my questions or seek help. Not many places have that level of customer service before, during, or after a sale. I can’t do that with other brands. Is that worth the difference in cost? Most definitely.

                                  Truth be told, I don’t see a huge difference between the brands regarding pricing, but the brand reputation is unmeasurable making any difference in price a moot point.

                                  Just my $.02 from being around for a few years and my experiences,

                                  “our policy of no discussions regarding politics, religion, asparagus, and other controversial issues.” - Andrew

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                                  • W
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                                    Any ideas on timeline?

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                                    • AdamJA
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                                      @welfare_burrito ETA Sept

                                      The devil is in the detail..

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                                      • weftyarnW
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                                        Probably has been asked a thousand times but can someone who wears both 888 and 1955 report on how the two compare in daily wearing, not just from a number / measurement standpoint? 🙂

                                        Use it or lose it.

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                                        • steelworkerS
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                                          @weftyarn to me the 888 fit is like a more fitted 55 id that makes sense. And alot would depend on the denim

                                          Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                                          Well, I have others.

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                                          • twinningT
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                                            @weftyarn The 1955S-21 thread has a lot of discussion and comparison between the 1955 and 888, starting with this post but scroll up/down as this one is kind of in the middle of the discussion: https://forum.ironheart.co.uk//post/878030. Also the cut comparison tool on the IH site is helpful if you are good at visualizing what diagrams look like in 3D (I'm not lol): https://ironheart.co.uk/pages/cut-comparison.

                                            I can't speak to daily wear experience--I tried on the 14oz 1955 when it came out last year but didn't buy it, to my eternal regret, but I will say the 1955 felt like it had a lot more room in the lower thigh and knee. The 888 feels really slim on me, especially in that area just above/at the knee. Still not sure why I didn't buy them when I had the chance...

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