In Fitness and in Health
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@Giles said in In Fitness and in Health:
This bloody 100kg dead lift barrier is proving really difficult for me to break. I tried 102.5 (though Brett did not tell me till afterwards what it was), and failed. But I am sure I would have done 101, may take my fractionals next time.....
If you aren't doing this already, I would experiment with carbohydrate loading beforehand and see if it helps. I find optimizing pre-workout nutrition with things like banana, eggs, and oats about 60 mins before exercise can affect my max lifts by 3-5kgs.
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“Sometimes” I’ll eat a couple Oatmeal Creme Pies too. In a pinch, they work pretty well for a boost of energy. I’m sure the kids are wondering where all the Oatmeal Creme Pies are disappearing to.
Been known to make two or three Rice Krispie Treats disappear as well.
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@northsouthdenimguy I am a fan of rice crispy treats post-workout with my protein shake. Now I have an excuse to eat them beforehand too
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I’m trying to get strong so I can do the things I love doing better. I’m not going to be packing special cakes to eat before I catch a fish
I’m sure I could lift heavier if I did steroids or did a line or two of coke. Of course the numbers matter, but I want them to improve because my overall level of fitness/ strength is getting better.110kg would not make me excited if I had eaten something that I would not normally eat just to get a PB.
Not trying to be judgemental, because we are all different/have different motivations.
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@Giles said in In Fitness and in Health:
I’m trying to get strong so I can do the things I love doing better. I’m not going to be packing special cakes to eat before I catch a fish
I’m sure I could lift heavier if I did steroids or did a line or two of coke. Of course the numbers matter, but I want them to improve because my overall level of fitness/ strength is getting better.110kg would not make me excited if I had eaten something that I would not normally eat just to get a PB.
Not trying to be judgemental, because we are all different/have different motivations.
Nutrition is a part of fitness, they go hand in hand and neglecting one has consequences for the other. You do you Giles, but the recommendations were made with the intent to be helpful. Comparing pre-workout nutrition to steroids and cocaine is obtuse.
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For the record, I wasn’t saying to eat these things every day before a workout. Occasionally, something like this is perfectly fine for most people, especially if you’re otherwise eating clean and don’t have any health issues.
Everybody has different goals, and I respect how people approach those. What works for me may not work for someone else, and that’s perfectly okay.
@selveldgesteps
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My diet is good. It's balanced and I eat stuff mainly that I have made from first principles. I hardly ever eat crap, and never have.
All I was trying to say is that I'm not going to eat something special to try and beat my PB. I was not knocking the advice, what I was trying to say is that eating something to improve a PB does not float my boat.
If it floats yours, I have absolutely no issues with that.
Perhaps @northsouthdenimguy said it better than I can: "Everybody has different goals, and I respect how people approach those. What works for me may not work for someone else, and that’s perfectly okay"
BTW, I know fuck all about this because until very recently, me doing exercise was less likely than me wearing a skirt. But I am getting stronger, my stature has improved and my hip does not hurt. I'm very happy with my progress, and I'll continue this journey.
"OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011
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@northsouthdenimguy said in In Fitness and in Health:
What works for me may not work for someone else, and that’s perfectly okay.
I don't always make other peoples routines or habits my own, but I do appreciate hearing others experiences and I honor the intention when they choose to share something that could be immediately helpful to me. Most of what I have learned about fitness and health over the past 30 years has been through hearing the experiences of others.
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@Giles said in In Fitness and in Health:
is less likely than me wearing a skirt.We can get you in a kilt for the Scotland game
All joking aside, I think you're on the right path and it's a journey that's different from everyone, I think what Giles said about "steroids" etc shows that even people in the pursuit of "health and fitness" can go to extremes and end up missing the point of being fit...
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@goosehd it’s true, I have orangutan arms and it’s a lot more distance to cover for all exercises. I always envy the stockier dudes when it comes to pushups especially.
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@WhiskeySandwich pushing yes the shorter arms are advantageous but pulling is the opposite. Long arms help alot on the deadlift as they reduce the range of motion.
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Potential other indicator that my fitness is improving. I never used to sweat at all, now I sweat like it's going out of fashion.....
"OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011
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I’m still trying to figure out how Giles managed to uncover my highly sophisticated training regimen of cocaine and anabolic steroids.
@selveldgesteps
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@yannis idk i dont think the distance from the top of the lift to the ground is still less than a shorter person, maybe saved a bit by the lanky arms but still more. I guess long legs usually come with the long arms unfortunately lol
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@northsouthdenimguy dont forget the cigarettes as an appetite suppressant if you're going for a caloric deficit.
"The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
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Think about it this way. If you have 2 people at about the same height and one has longer arms than the other, the one one with longer arms has to squat much less to get to a good starting position in a deadlift. The one with short arms has to squat deeper to.get to the same position. Less knee flexion means higher hip position more upright posture and easier pulling.Prime mates are extremely strong pullers because of the outrageous long arms, they can grab stuff without bearly bending.
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Another way to visualize it is look at the lockout of the deadlift. If I have very long arms by the time I get to just above the knee am done my body is erect and the bar is hanging from my long arms. If I have trex arms I have to bring the bar almost to my hips to be erect. So the bar from the floor to lock out travels less distance the longer the arms are.
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My pre-workout has always been a large strong black coffee loaded with honey.
Enough to blow the cobwebs away without you feeling like crap after.
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@1WayTrip I am with you. I usually workout early in the morning. So yes a cup of black coffee and 2 teaspoons of honey but I don't mix it.
