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    IH-634Z - 21oz Denim Straight Cut Jeans - Indigo

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    • GilesG
      Giles
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      It's a long story. But basically the non selvedge jeans sell very poorly outside of Japan. We sold them for a while, but demand was so small we gave up. They are still made and sold in Japan, but it is pointless us stocking something that hardly anyone buys.

      Arguably the cut of the Z is better than the S because we are not constrained by having a straight out seam (to retain the selvedge ID), but the 21oz non selvedge denim does not have as much character as the selvedge equivalent.

      As to why were they created, the Japanese bikers don't really give a toss whether their jeans are selvedge or not, so we offered them as a cheaper alternative to the selvedge version. They lack some of the features of the selvedge jeans (no hidden rivets for instance).

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        sabergirl
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        FWIW I find the zipper fly on my 9555z makes the fly “sit” the best of any of my IH pants. Some day I will seek out a pair of 634z for that reason.

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        • GilesG
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          And we can help you with that if you like....

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            sabergirl
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            Thanks, G. 😘

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              yannis
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              Is sizing on those similar to the 634s?

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                sabergirl
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                Charts look similar, for sure! Slightly lower rise, especially in the back.

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                  yannis
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                  Are you still considering them? @sabergirl

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                  • MattM
                    Matt
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                    Now you guys got me thinking about these. 😒. I’ve been a selvedge snob for so long I kinda want to wear something like this as a go to pair for a while. The old Reverse Hipster if you will.

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                      sabergirl
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                      I mean, I’ve always been considering them @yannis . I gotta see what the new serge work pants measure up like, first. Really, I don’t need any more pants at the moment, and have no money to spend on them.

                      Probably means I will get a pair in six months or less 🤣

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                      • timjaxT
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                        Anyone else have some experience with the 634Z? Would love to see some on-body pictures.

                        Also curious how it wears in real world feedback compared to the 634S - how do the less-breathable fabric/higher front rise/lower back rise/larger waist etc measurements feel and look? @cherniy @christjazz1 @emceeQ

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                          yannis
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                          @timjax. I think the fabric will feel very close or identical to the 634s. The main differences are one had zipper fly and the other button fly and the 634s is selfedge vs the 634z that is not.

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                            paulmtg
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                            I have them. I love the fit. The fabric… is nice, definitely feels like a tighter weave. Interested to see how it softens up with more wear.

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