IH-8301S - SBG "Super Black Fade-To-Gray" Denim - Slim Cut
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I asked Kiya about the product descriptions and got a pretty quick response:
“The 633s-SBG is very very lightly rinsed, we still consider it "raw".
Where as the 8301 isn't rinsed at all, so there is more shrinkage there, especially for a sanforized denim.
I wouldn't expect the 633s-SBG to shrink that much, and they run a bit small so most of our clients have been sizing up.“Sounds like the 8301 is pretty much an unwashed sanforized fabric.
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This sounds like the first run the Berkeley Supply Snake Oil Provisions had. I got a lot of shrink out of that pair I had and wasn't expecting as much so now I'm on the hunt for a new pair of SBG.
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@plumdog I'm a year behind you - I just received my 8301 SBGs and was going to wear them for a while unhemmed as well until after the first soak; however, the length is way too big for me.
How much shrinkage did you see across the waist, thigh, knee, hem, and length? I'll probably get these hemmed as well, so guessing I should add 1.5 - 2" to the length above my preference? The hem is also a bit wider than I usually like, but I can't tell if Self Edge/IH accounted for shrinkage in the width of the legs as well. Thanks!
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@goosehd Thank you amigo!
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@goosehd and for anyone interested in same question. Kiya at Self Edge sent me this about shrinkage across thigh, knee, hem:
They'll shrink about .25" to .4" in the areas not stated on our site after a warm wash.
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Hey guys. I’m considering getting a pair of these jeans. Just concerned about the sizing, I’m considering either a 34 or 36 as I’m smack in between two sizes- I know SE measures a bit differently than IH. And from what I’ve seen in this thread, a size 34 comes measured out closer to ~35 in the waist prior to shrinkage, which is what I want.
However is it possible to go with a size 36 to be on the safer end and then just really hit it hard with the hot wash to get them down to size 34 ish ballpark measurements? I’d then be worried about them stretching back out….
Any experience or advice would be very helpful
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Hey! Just my 2 cents, I think hot washing a 36 to get a 35 waist might be a little aggressive. You might be able to get some shrinkage out of it, but more than likely you'll stretch them back out for it will be a constant cycle of hot washing until they wont shrink down hard enough for ya anymore.
Just for reference too, I have a pair of the 8301s with some light-ish wear and tear in a 36. and they seem to be sitting right at a 36 when I just measured just now. Best bet would prolly be to go for a larger 34 and try and get some stretch into it. Not a professional in this department, but just hoping it helps!
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That’s pretty much exactly what I needed to see haha.
Thanks so much!
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Will this come out in different colors like indigo?
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Hey does anyone know if these fit well with engineer boots such as the John Lofgren wabash? I currently have pair that I love but not sure if a leg opening of 7.5 in enough for engineer boots
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Hey guys. I’m super interested in these. I tried them on today. How is the shrinkage after a cold soak? I have room to shrink but don’t want them to shrink too small. I love this black to grey fade. Also when is the next release? I know they’re in stock now but I may try to wait till the Black Friday sale. A chance I know.
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@knappman74 Where did you try them on? These haven't released by IH in a good while, surprised to hear of anywhere having them in stock and then on sale...
As for a cold soak you wont get shrinkage, I don't own these jeans but unless they're unsaforized you wont get any shrinkage, and if you do a hot "soak"/wash I normally lose about an inch on the waist from washing but it stretches back out...
Maybe someone else that owns these can chime in, or with better experience than me
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@knappman74
they are not often restocked , guess once a year.
they will shrink , but stretch back at the waist.
be careful when you think of hemming, they loose around 1” in lenght! at least mine did with 30 degrees wash. -
@sophisto000 said in IH-8301S - SBG "Super Black Fade-To-Gray" Denim - Slim Cut:
These are at Self Edge, and they are unsanforized…
I'm not sure about that unsanforized part. The description in the top post describes them as sanforized.
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Also SE page states the following:
Disclaimer: These jeans are made of raw sanforized denim, when cold washed, the denim will shrink approximately 1" in the length and waist. Please keep this in mind when choosing your size. The denim will also stretch in the waist up to 1" after approximately 20 wears.
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@hippieflipflops could be a stretch, I think you would want at least a 8" leg opening for narrow shaft engineers like Mr Lou or the Lofgrens. I have a 555s-19L with a little over 8" I wear with wesco boss with the narrow shaft and especially at first when the leather is still new and stiff you see the shaft under the fabric and it's not easy to get the pants leg down.
