IH-888S-21 - 21oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo
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@KA56 said in IH-888S-21 - 21oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo:
@m4xime Really depends on the fit you're after. If you want a very slim fit you can do 634 in the same size as 888/1955. If you want something with more room to breathe, go +1 from your 888/1955 to get your 634 size.
I take a 34 in 888/1955 (+2 from what I'd need in the waist in order to get the fit I want in the leg), and while I can squeeze my legs into a 34 634, I would need a 35 to start feeling comfortable in the thighs pre-stretch.
888 is definitely more skinny throughout than the 1955 or the 634. I have all 3 in the same size. The 634 are the most relaxed and roomy of all of them, just with a lower waist. 634 is IH’s most relaxed fit.
One great thing about IH is that the waist sizes are simple. A 34 should be a very similar waist size in every fit. If you’re struggling with the other measurements, then it’s simply not your fit. If you want a skinny fit, then the 777, 666, or 555 is for you.
If you specifically want a slim fit 634, then try the Self Edge exclusive 633.
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@DirtyMike619 SE also tried to size me up. I listened, spent a couple months breaking them in, then realized they were way too big.
If your best fitting pair measures 17 the IH way, I think 34 is your best bet. For me, the best fit is snug in the fitting room. Not only will the fabric will stretch a bit, but jeans also just feel slightly more loose as the fabric breaks in and conforms to your body.
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." -Thomas Edison
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@DirtyMike619 for what it’s worth, I did my own measurements which put me at a 34. I have a self edge shop next to me where I bought my iron hearts. I went in and told them my measurements and the first thing they recommended I tried was a 36 but I tried both and the 34 was the right fit 100%, especially considering it stretches another inch or so upon wearing. I’d go with your measurements since that worked perfectly for me.
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@sabergirl yes, thigh will be just fine in either size, tad looser on sz 36 but not bad. And the rise is what led me to the 888 because they matched better with measurements from my Oni and UB221.
Thank you for the guidance!
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@Go-For-Chill yeah I thought the sz 36 recommendation from them was nuts and I've been showering the Internet for different size charts of the 888 and every other one led to a sz 34 or 35.
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@SlothRock did you still have a little bit of room throughout or was it pretty form fitting?
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Brand new there was still some room but it was form fitting in the waist - it’s stretched already so there’s more room in the waist at this point. You want it to be slimmer in the waist on first wear due to stretch. From thigh downward though it was always comfortable and roomier (but not baggy) which is why I wanted to go with the 888’s to begin with.
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@Go-For-Chill interesting. I also have all three (tag 34) and my experience is the total opposite.
The 634 is the tightest of the bunch. The seat and upper thigh are painted on due to the lower rise giving less overall volume up top, though below the knee the leg is plenty roomy. Oddly enough they're still very comfortable with excellent mobility despite how tight they look.
The 888 is an odd middle ground. Pulled up properly, the waist and seat are both too big for me, but the leg is one step up from skinny jeans (I tried a 33 and had difficulty pulling them all the way up over my thighs). Worn a bit lower so that the back rise slouches a bit, the leg becomes much more roomy and comfortable, though at the cost of a flattering overall silhouette.
And the 1955 are the loosest of the bunch. The top feels similarly oversized to the 888, but because the leg is wider it looks like a balanced regular/repro fit with some good drape. I also have them in a tag 33 and they look kind of like the model pic on the 21oz indigo product page. Which is to say they're perfectly wearable and comfortable, but the overall silhouette is too slim for my liking.
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Here you go.
One thing to note: the waists are all the same.
https://ironheart.co.uk/pages/cut-comparison
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@weftyarn stunning
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@Go-For-Chill sure, but I haven't sized jeans based on the waist measurement in years.
Thigh, rise, and knee (in that order) matter much more for a good fit. If the waist is too big, you can throw on a belt and be fine (assuming you can fill out the seat). If the thigh, rise, or knee are too small, that's a pair of pants that's never going to look or feel good, regardless of how perfectly they can stay up without a belt.
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My 888S-21 oz just came in today! Glad got help from you lovely folks about sizing! Went ahead and ordered a 34 instead of the recommended 36 and I'm glad I did!
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Back in IH jeans after 5 years of going back to mainstream brands for conventional comfort, practicality and style. Becoming a new parent can do that to you.
I had to relearn the stubbornness of the IH heavy-weight denim and the first couple of weeks of break-in that leaves physical marks on your skin. The experience exceeded by far any memory I had of the process.
It took 2 weeks, but the stiff 888-21 pair I had bought - and abandoned - in 2019, have now stretched and moulded to my legs and I’m delighted to rediscover the look and feel of heavy-weight IH denim.
The 888 is a great cut, very forgiving of my smaller waist with larger thighs body type and, unlike the 634s, the seat doesn’t give me the awkward ‘wedgy’ back look (YMMV). The pronounced taper is not my usual preference but I can live with it (I like a more straight leg and bigger opening).
Being familiar with the high stretch property of the 21 oz, I had sized down to 30 when I bought this pair 6 years ago (I’m 6’1” and still 178lbs/80kg today). Wearing and breaking it now, I almost regretted my previous sizing decision. I stuck with it though, and the jeans have thankfully relaxed quite a bit, providing significant gains in breathing room, comfort and mobility in previously tights places (waist, crotch and things). I completely forgot how you often have to work on and earn your fit with IH denim. No doubt, it will relax even more with wear.
Very happy to be back in this great denim. Probably going to wear it until it’s close to giving up, per my usual practice. The experience has also rekindled my interest in the brand so I might gradually dig up my stashed away IH pieces.
Thanks for indulging my post and forgiving this initial crappy pic.
Glad to be back on this great forum / community
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@RobeOfTheMagi said in IH-888S-21 - 21oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo:
@zatenm You are 6 foot tall and about 80kg and able to wear a size 30???
Yessir
I have a narrow waist and usually wear size 31 with some room to spare..
