Ship John
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@bluemantra No I sized one down. I have a medium, and I'm usually large in IH western UHF
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@bluemantra yes actually a little.
I was first going to order size 34 but they were out of stock so a took a leap of faith and ordered the 33. Had never tried a high rise jeans so didn’t know what to expect. My old jeans were low rise and sat more on the hips than my waist. So I knew I would probably need smaller but don’t know how much.But I’m glad I chose the smaller, the 34 would have been too big. The 33 have stretched just a tad in the waist and fits perfect now with a belt.
I could probably have squeezed into a size 32 and stretched so I wouldn’t need a belt.
But I guess the 33 is perfect for me.But measurements is always key.
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@GraemeE beautiful work - really clever & stylish choices in the thread/fabric colours you ended up using. nicely done
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@Inorganic thanks Thomas.
I'm really enjoying learning as i go
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@goosehd #alwaystired
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I may be a lone voice in the wilderness on this but...just curious if anyone else here finds the Wills Jacket to be unwearable? It's a great jacket, well made, looks nice but I think it's really uncomfortable. Too damn rigid. Plus the sizing runs small so it doesn't allow for much movement or layering. I admire SJ and their business but with all the hype and praise around the Wills jacket Im wondering if there's anyone else who feels this way. I think it would be a much better jacket if it weren't so thick ( And had a blanket lining ).
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In July 2022 I ordered the v2 Wills with the standard 24oz wax coating for January 2025 delivery.
In May 2024 I got an email about the limited edition Battleship Grey with a light wax coating. I think they called it 18oz+ like they do in the description of the Black LE jacket that they put out in January:
- https://shipjohn.us/products/the-v2-wills-jacket-black-dry-wax
- Please note: This Jacket has a lighter waxed/oil finish than our standard Wills jackets. While still heavily water resistant, This lighter finish makes for a more moveable garment... The weight gain is nominal with this finish so we're just calling this an 18oz+ based on the twill weight plus a smidge for the finish.
I went on the website the day they released the Battleship Grey not expecting to actually be able to buy one and I was surprised when my order went through.
So, long story short is I have two Wills jackets. The light-wax version is MUCH more wearable than the fully waxed beast. If I had it to do over again I'd get the 24oz Wills in an XL even though the measurements of the L is a much better match for every other jacket in my closet. The 24oz L is a little tough to layer under and it's hard to put on a backpack with it zipped up.
All of that to say, I don't find the 24oz unwearable exactly, but it's rigid for sure.
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@Plant-Life I can understand the sentiment of it being “unwearable”. It for sure is a tough jacket. But I’ve been finding that the more I wear it, with the lighter the wax has gotten and it’s now formed to my body shape, it’s gotten much easier to wear. Still not the easiest for putting on a backpack as @chadstone30 mentioned. I have trouble getting my work vest on and off with a Wills on. But as for just wearing it around, I enjoy it more and more each time I put it on. A lighter weight fabric is probably better for overall movement though.
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@chadstone30 The Grey version is lighter wax/weight sounds much better. Wish that had been an option when I got mine. I have a Medium V2 which I received in 2023.
@Danimal506 Thanks for the reply. I'd imagine it does soften up a but after a lot of wear. I just haven't been able to deal with wearing it enough to get to that point. There isn't a lot of good seasonal weather here in New York for it. It's usually too cold for it. It doesn't retain heat so it's not warm ( and I can't layer much ) but it's too thick for weather that isn't cold. I'm thinking of selling it.
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@Plant-Life If your are considering selling it, please do so in the IH marketplace per our forum rules. Many sellers (and buyers) have had great transactions here.
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@goosehd Will do- thanks.
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@chadstone30 Oh yeah? I have yet to see anyone in NYC wearing one, which is kinda surprising.
