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    Prevent the saggy butt with a big gut

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    • KarolK
      Karol
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      @Go-For-Chill The stretch factor might be part of an answer in this scenario.
      I present the work of a legend - @neph93
      abridged https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum//post/628792
      full version https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum//post/628791

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      IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
      IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
      IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
      IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

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      • MizmazzleM
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        @RobeOfTheMagi “The Soggy Bottom Boys”

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          wjw
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          @Karol I have the SST in 777, and the stretch definitely helps, though I think SST in a different cut would help even more. I know if I scour the forums I can probably find the answer, but do you know a rough ETA when the SST is coming back and if it's coming back in all the cuts besides 634/1955?

          36 777S-21 |36 777SST | 35 634S-ib-c | 36 634XHS
          XXXL IHSH-293-OD | XXXL IHSH-130-GB |XXXL IHSH-337 | SP-L IHSH 422

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            wjw
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            @Go-For-Chill I'm interested in trying a high rise. Even 30lbs lighter I still have the sag problem, but I've never tried a high rise pant before.

            36 777S-21 |36 777SST | 35 634S-ib-c | 36 634XHS
            XXXL IHSH-293-OD | XXXL IHSH-130-GB |XXXL IHSH-337 | SP-L IHSH 422

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              wjw
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              Fit pics in my 634

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              And then the sag after doing something besides walking/standing

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              36 777S-21 |36 777SST | 35 634S-ib-c | 36 634XHS
              XXXL IHSH-293-OD | XXXL IHSH-130-GB |XXXL IHSH-337 | SP-L IHSH 422

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              • neph93N
                neph93
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                @wjw SST in 634 and size to account for stretch (ie, tight at the waist when new).

                Alternatively buy 666 in SST and size for the thighs. The waist will likely be big. But the top block will be trim so it won’t matter.

                “Some of those that work forces
                Are the same that burn crosses”

                • Virginia Woolf
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                • W
                  wjw
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                  @neph93 are they making an SST in the 634 cut?

                  36 777S-21 |36 777SST | 35 634S-ib-c | 36 634XHS
                  XXXL IHSH-293-OD | XXXL IHSH-130-GB |XXXL IHSH-337 | SP-L IHSH 422

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                  • neph93N
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                    Dunno… maybe not… in which case ignore me 😂

                    “Some of those that work forces
                    Are the same that burn crosses”

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                    • neph93N
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                      But the advice for the 666 stands. My best fitting jeans have always been 666 sized up to fit the thighs.

                      “Some of those that work forces
                      Are the same that burn crosses”

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                      • FadezF
                        Fadez
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                        I second the recommendation for the 888 cut. Size TTS. Wear a belt. The rear rise will prevent the crack showing. The way the cut will go below the gut and high enough over the butt to help against the sag. You might want to find a size 38 with a 37”-37.5” waist. I think that will be a great choice for you.

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                        • B
                          Blueband
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                          I have both the 888 and 666 both fit great. I cannot wear a low rise, they feel uncomfortable on me.
                          I find the 888 my best fit in IH jeans but 666 is close. In my other brands I always look for a rear rise of 17inches whenever possible.

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                            wjw
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                            Here's the sag after action in my other pairs

                            666-142
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                            777SST
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                            777S-21

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                            36 777S-21 |36 777SST | 35 634S-ib-c | 36 634XHS
                            XXXL IHSH-293-OD | XXXL IHSH-130-GB |XXXL IHSH-337 | SP-L IHSH 422

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                              wjw
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                              @Fadez yeah I'm thinking I want to try the 888, just unsure about the sizing since most my other pants are worn in the same spot, when these would not be

                              36 777S-21 |36 777SST | 35 634S-ib-c | 36 634XHS
                              XXXL IHSH-293-OD | XXXL IHSH-130-GB |XXXL IHSH-337 | SP-L IHSH 422

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                              • FadezF
                                Fadez
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                                Totally feel you. It was weird the first time I wore them too. Now I can’t get enough of them. I love my 634-UHR, but honestly wish they were 888 cut. Also cool note. The 888 have deeper pockets than the 634 and that makes a difference for me too. Maybe try and get a used pair in your size and see if you like the cut. Or if you have the ability to try on it might be worth it. I didn’t really have a butt for a while. Now that I’ve been consistently working out again. It also helps. But that’s another story. Definitely worth a shot for your body type

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                                • jordanscollectedJ
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                                  @wjw I worry about the 888 cut on you. If the front rise falls below the belly when you are moving the back with undoubtedly follow, and the sag will happen yet again. I wonder if any of the larger fellas on the IHUK staff have put some work in on 888's and can weigh in. The waist sits really high, you just don't see bigger guys wearing high waisted jeans much.

                                  It's mostly slender fellas that look good with tucked in shirts (I do not). I have the 888 cut in XHS denim. I can make them work and I don't have a flat belly at all, but it doesn't hang either. maybe TTS 888's and rock suspenders if you want to give them a shot. or the elasticated belt could be a worthy option. https://www.kuhl.com/kuhl/other/bags-gear/arkive-belt/?color=Raven I have this Kuhl belt and it's awesome.

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                                    wjw
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                                    @jordanscollected I'm definitely not a tucked in shirt guy either. Just wondering if wearing on the belly would solve the sag, but totally know what you mean if the front doesn't stay put. I've been thinking about trying suspenders. Never had them, and got to figure out how to use them without the wife having to look at them haha. I did talk with @JoshC about sizing/cut, but just want to be as informed as possible. I don't have the luxury to try on in person.

                                    36 777S-21 |36 777SST | 35 634S-ib-c | 36 634XHS
                                    XXXL IHSH-293-OD | XXXL IHSH-130-GB |XXXL IHSH-337 | SP-L IHSH 422

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                                      I think from looking at your pics that you need a low rise jean like the 777 sized more generously so you can pull them up a little higher, and a belt to keep them in place. I agree with @jordanscollected. Something with a higher rise will just lead to more diaper butt, unless you get them in a huge size and belt over the gut, which probably wouldn’t be comfortable for other reasons.

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                                      • W
                                        wjw
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                                        @sabergirl yeah I was thinking if I were to go 888 I'd have to go to around a size 42 and belt up. I've never sized up in the waist measurement on pants in the fear of even more sag. (I do always wear a belt)

                                        36 777S-21 |36 777SST | 35 634S-ib-c | 36 634XHS
                                        XXXL IHSH-293-OD | XXXL IHSH-130-GB |XXXL IHSH-337 | SP-L IHSH 422

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                                          yannis
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                                          Don't worry sizing up with slimmer cuts. They usually have slimmer hip measurements also. I have an IH Pronto in the tapered cut closer to a 777 and tag 40 fits me fine. I cannot take tag 40 in the 634's or 888's. The waist and hip will be out of control.

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                                            wjw
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                                            @yannis what size do you normally wear?

                                            36 777S-21 |36 777SST | 35 634S-ib-c | 36 634XHS
                                            XXXL IHSH-293-OD | XXXL IHSH-130-GB |XXXL IHSH-337 | SP-L IHSH 422

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